Alex Smith no longer the starting QB in San Francisco

TheBostonStraggler said:

No way! He actually said that?? And it wasn't something he accidentally got backwards? Was drunk? Skipped his medicine? Thought Tom Brady played for another team?
And to think, this guy got multiple HC jobs......

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Why does everyone think Kaepernick is a rookie?

II Jangles II said:

That's so stupid

Watch this ruin any confidence Smith has built up, just to start some kid that showed promise.

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You are correct…but Mr. Smith should have a tougher mindset than that. He is #1 overall pick who has made ridiculous amounts of money after incredible achievements earlier in his life (he was top notch student andSenior class Prez).

tombonneau said:

Why does everyone think Kaepernick is a rookie?

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Because he had not had any meaningful playing time…just like TB was a "rookie" in 2001 after Bledsoe went down. They were both 2nd year players.

Brady_to_Moss said:

told smith colin was replacing him and it wasn't based on health

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I'm sorry if I repeat some things already mentioned in this post, but this is an insane decission on the 49ers part.

Replace a still developing legit #1 QB with a 2nd year player when your team is rolling towards the playoffs based on 1 game. What?

Some reasons why this is a bad idea:
- Alex Smith played 2 of his best games last season in the playoffs, no guarantee that CK won't choke there
- Once you go away from a guy you have invested so much in, it's almost impossible to go back if this backfires
- Harbaugh propably loses at least some respect in the locker room, because it is harder to justify replacing a player who has done more than what was expected of him
- Smith is a better QB this year than last year when he came close to SB appearance with Kyle Williams being the only roadblock (9ers offense led by Smith scored the same amount of points on the Giants D than TB)
- You cannot change a 104 QBR QB in a 7-2-1 team when you don't know how well the replacement will handle the pressure of those high expectations
- You cannot replace the QB of a 7-2-1 team without even giving the starter a chance to prove himself against the newly-found competition
- Against the Bears, Kaepernick benefited greatly from two things
1) There was no NFL tape on Kaepernick, so Bears couldnt prepare properly (helped him perform well)
2) The pressure on him was really low, because the Bears offense didn't pose any threat to the 9ers and CK wasn't even thinking that he is competing for the starting job

PittPatriot said:

You are correct…but Mr. Smith should have a tougher mindset than that. He is #1 overall pick who has made ridiculous amounts of money after incredible achievements earlier in his life (he was top notch student andSenior class Prez).

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I think Smith has actually matured to be a legit contender. Last year his game against the Saints proved to me that the guy can step up when the going gets tough.

If your winning games with a productive QB and a crapy D you don't make this decision IMO. having the number 1 D makes this move a little easier and less risky.

EDIT: forgot they're also one of the top rushing teams taking even more pressure off of the situation.

Wow, I don't think I'd do this based on one good game where no one has any tape on Kapernicus (or however you spell it!!). It seems Hairball has never liked Smith though and is always looking for ways to be rid of him (ala the Peyton Manning Experiment).

Smith has learned to eliminate Mistakes. Kapaernick hasn't. It'll be interesting to see what Harbaugh does after Kapaernick cost him, or almost costs him, a game.

robertweathers said:

Holding them back? Really? They were a fumble away from making the Super Bowl last year and since Harbaugh got him settled on the offense he's been an above average QB with a W/L of 19-6-1 in games hes started (inc playoffs). Smith isn't spectacular but a good, well-rounded team can certainly contend and perhaps even win a SB with him.

Kaepernick seems pretty good but to emphatically state after 1 career start that hes the missing ingredient to a SB title is a stretch.

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You obviously rate Smith alot Higher than i do...i always thought he was limited for a #1 overall selection. Smith has not proven that he can beat anybody with his arm. Smith has been a game manager for the most part of his career. Take away that 49ers Defense and you wouldn't have much to say about Smith other than he leaves alot to be desired. His play in the Playoffs last year was a aberration and definitely not the norm.

Deus Irae said:

Smith has learned to eliminate Mistakes. Kapaernick hasn't. It'll be interesting to see what Harbaugh does after Kapaernick cost him, or almost costs him, a game.

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I hope you guys are not going to use the Saints Game as barometer for Colin Kapaernick? The Saints could easily carve up our Defense...like dropping 40 on us they like Greenbay they are a night mare for most Defenses. It wouldn't shock me if the 49ers win but the Saints are as good as its gets on Offense. Colin Kapaernick makes the 49ers better on Offense especially in the passing game. They should be able to move the ball quite easily on the Saints. Dont judge Kapaernick yet he maybe much better than regarded.

It's a roll of the dice, but he's definitely going big. They know what they've got & what they're going to get w/ Smith. It's not BAD, but there is a ceiling to it, and the 49ers are a team that is a very good QB away from rising above the rest of the pack and making a real dynasty-type run.

CK could be the guy that takes them there. It might fail spectacularly, but I can't help but think it's a good gamble. And yes, it is reminiscent of Brady's start in the league.

Fball said:

It's a roll of the dice, but he's definitely going big. They know what they've got & what they're going to get w/ Smith. It's not BAD, but there is a ceiling to it, and the 49ers are a team that is a very good QB away from rising above the rest of the pack and making a real dynasty-type run.

CK could be the guy that takes them there. It might fail spectacularly, but I can't help but think it's a good gamble. And yes, it is reminiscent of Brady's start in the league.

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Anybody who disagrees with that haven't watch enough football or Alex Smith.

Re: OT: Smith no longer starter in San Fran

Deus Irae said:

Smith has learned to eliminate Mistakes. Kapaernick hasn't. It'll be interesting to see what Harbaugh does after Kapaernick cost him, or almost costs him, a game.

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Honestly, I cannot see a scenario where he goes back to Smith after telling him "it's not about the health". I don't see Smith fully trusting Harbaugh and buying into his locker-room hype again anytime soon.

When he decided to start CK, he should have said to Smith that Kaepernicks previous performance was so good that he decided to let Smith fully heal from his concussion. A small white lie that would have kept the door open, if Kaepernick implodes in the next game.

Fball said:

It's a roll of the dice, but he's definitely going big. They know what they've got & what they're going to get w/ Smith. It's not BAD, but there is a ceiling to it, and the 49ers are a team that is a very good QB away from rising above the rest of the pack and making a real dynasty-type run.

CK could be the guy that takes them there. It might fail spectacularly, but I can't help but think it's a good gamble. And yes, it is reminiscent of Brady's start in the league.

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PatsFan2 said:

Anybody who disagrees with that haven't watch enough football or Alex Smith.

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I disagree. Not sure whether I have watched enough to do so, but I'll give it a shot.

I bolded a segment of the post you quoted that you bolded as well before making that comment.

Has Smith reached his ceiling?
Obviously not. He is a better QB this year than last year, all the numbers and the classic eyeball test all verify that.

Didn't he play his best games of last season in the playoffs?
Doesn't this also qualify for the "you know what you are going to get"? If I felt that my QB would play like Smith did in the last year's playoffs, I would be hyped, not looking to get rid of him.

PatsFan2 said:

You obviously rate Smith alot Higher than i do...i always thought he was limited for a #1 overall selection. Smith has not proven that he can beat anybody with his arm. Smith has been a game manager for the most part of his career. Take away that 49ers Defense and you wouldn't have much to say about Smith other than he leaves alot to be desired. His play in the Playoffs last year was a aberration and definitely not the norm.

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I'm going by what hes done under Harbaugh these last 25 games or so. Hes been a game manager for sure. Hes not great. Hes not terrible. A well-rounded team can win a SB with him. Can he carry a team like Brady or Rodgers can? Certainly not but that doesn't make him a bottom-tier QB.

robertweathers said:

I'm going by what hes done under Harbaugh these last 25 games or so. Hes been a game manager for sure. Hes not great. Hes not terrible. A well-rounded team can win a SB with him. Can he carry a team like Brady or Rodgers can? Certainly not but that doesn't make him a bottom-tier QB.

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Not just a game manager, but arguably the best and most efficient game manager in the NFL, which still puts him top 10 among all starting quarterbacks in my book. Unless you prefer the gunslinger types that will put it up 35 times, gain 300 passing yards but lose your games because of throwing 2-3 picks.

Go away Rivers! I wasn't necessarily talking about you.

IndianPat said:

Tom Brady replacing Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe never got his job back.

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That is true but Brady's body of work (when Drew got healthy) was a much larger sample than this kid's. Brady was not a rookie either.

And don't forget, people, this kid had the benefit of zero game tape on him. The league catches up to all new QB acts and when they do the QB/coaches have to be pretty nimble to adjust without losing what they do best.

When will the league catch up to the kid? Oh, in time for the playoffs or something like that.

Not a great move as it appears to be a much bigger gamble than Brady. Maybe it will work, as all gambles may work, but it's still a huge gamble. They had a formula that was good enough to get them past the Giants and to the SB if it had not been for muffed fumbles. Are you kidding me - you're going to break that up in week 12? That seems like excessive gambling to me.

IndianPat said:

Tom Brady replacing Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe never got his job back.

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Bledsoe was hurt with a career threatening injury. The situation in SF is totally different. A risky move to make midseason, and I'm not sure I agree with it. If you've got a veteran QB going strong, there's no reason to mix things up unless things are not working right. With the 9ers in 1st place in their division and Alex Smith performing strongly, this is a very mystifying move.

DocHoliday said:

Colin K is not a rookie. He was selected in the 2011 draft

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I admit I don't know much about Colin kapernick, for good reason.
But I know he doesn't pass the name test for being elite.

"Now kapernick was one of the best ever" is something we will never hear.

and I know if his decision as QB are anything close to what he does to his body or that ridicules Pharaoh beard we have nothing to worry about,lol
Hopefully he will be to worried about his parole officer seeing him on tv, and throw us some interceptions.





Alex is the only QB to beat the Saints since 2004, 1-6. This might be a huge mistake, and i feel sorry for Alex. Alex is a solid QB and deserves the spot, and not to be played with like this.