Ty Law shares what he thinks Patriots should do with No. 3 pick

[One-If-By-Sea]

I’m not convinced either. If there is one he’s prob gone 1 or 2.

Tua was 5th, Herbert was 4th, Mahomes was 10th. Finding a QB outside R1 is very rare, finding a QB outside #1 and #2 picks is not rare.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

F*ck that nonsense. Take the QB & control his rights for 5 years minimum if he’s legit. We have a top 3 pick. Why are people overthinking this..?..

And if he is not legit??? 3 to 5 years of BS.

Sign Cousins or Garropolo or another, and then we have a chance. Draft two tackles with Onwenu, Andrews, Strange, Sow, Mafi, and Andrews on the inside and we have both a passing and running game.

 

[Ivan]

Agree--the only thing that makes me nervous is that there are no LTs in FA. So they need to grab one in the 2nd and maybe 5th, 6th rounds as well. Once again, we're not going to be able to take a WR early.

They have to look into FA for one.

They can trade up for one in the 20’s because ther 2nd is really high, so the cost won’t be prohibitive. Example: Patriots take Daniels at #3, then trade up to 20-25 area and take Tyler Guyton, LT Oklahoma, Amarius Mins, LT Georgia, or JC Latham OT Alabama, who are all projected in the 19/20-30 range. Then you have your QB, OT, and you can focus on the rest of the draft for WR’s.

 

[Ivan]

And if he is not legit??? 3 to 5 years of BS.

Sign Cousins or Garropolo or another, and then we have a chance. Draft two tackles with Onwenu, Andrews, Strange, Sow, Mafi, and Andrews on the inside and we have both a passing and running game.

Disagree. Use #3 for QB then trade up for a LT in the second half of the first round.

 

[Sicilian]

F*ck that nonsense. Take the QB & control his rights for 5 years minimum if he’s legit. We have a top 3 pick. Why are people overthinking this..?..

I don't think it's overthinking, it's just that it doesn't matter if they have the 3rd overall pick if the best two QBs go 1 and 2. In that scenario, you're saying take a QB no matter what? I agree that if one of the QBs they really believe in is there, you don't pass on him, even if it's a slight reach. For example, if it's expected that Jayden Daniels could last into the teens, but you really like him, don't muck around, just draft the kid. But if Williams and Maye are gone and you don't think Daniels, Penix, or Nix are really the guys, you don't just take a QB for the sake of it, especially when there's prospects as good as MHJ and Alt available at positions you also REALLY need.

 

[Racervx54]

Harrison is set to.make 22-25 mill if he stays at OSU. Why enter the draft....

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

I agree with Ty Law. The pick, if he's still on the board is Harrison Jr. You can get a QB in the late first or 2nd round, but you need to have a weapon for that QB to throw to. They have none on offense. So whoever they draft in the first round will probably not be much better than Zappe in year one. Unless Kraft decides to actually spend money and sign weapons. Harrison is the best player in the draft. However if the Bears pick 1st on draft night he is probably going there.

If Bill stays as GM, the team is probably trading back and taking a tackle.

 

[50-yard-line]

Why not Cousins? We need two tackles. There are WRs in later rounds this year and next. Patchwork tackles always seem to disappoint.

I'm a Wilson fan. I admit it. Liked him in Seattle.

When he started working with Jeudy late in that Pats game this year, I thought we were in real trouble.

Wilson climbed the mountain and fell off when he went to Denver. He doesn't want it to end this way. Also, BB has always liked him.

 

[vicspats]

I'm with Ty law on this give MH Jr or give me death.

I’m not sure a wide out ever changed the trajectory of a team right away. I agree with some other posters , build the team from the inside out. That O- line was just putrid. It affects absolutely every facet of the offense I believe more than any other group of players. Especially a young qb. Those defensive players are fast as 5hit.. rookie gone need time to process.

 

[50-yard-line]

Disagree. Use #3 for QB then trade up for a LT in the second half of the first round.

If there's a QB there they think worth the pick they absolutely need to make that pick.

That was true of Mac at 15, even though it didn't work out, and it will be true of Williams, Maye, or someone else they think is the real deal at #3.
You can get top-tier WRs in FA or via trade - the opportunities come up.
You rarely see that with a QB and QB is by far the most important player on the field. By far. That's always been true, of course, but the rule changes and the protections offered to QBs have separate the QBs even more from the rest of the pack.

 

[vicspats]

You guys really get enamored with this athletic freak stuff at QB. You don't need a sprinter or a cannon arm. You need a guy who makes the right decisions. Who has had to learn how to throw in tight windows, who has constantly been in tough situations. Mahomes isn't who he is JUST because of his physical skills. Neither was Brady. Neither was Montana. You have to find the guys who are football fanatics.

Hence the risk - reward

 

[PowerRunRevival]

After catching up on this thread I’m surprised at the number of people advocating for Alt at 3. Alt’s seems to be ranked behind the tackle from Penn State by most analysts. Would people want to trade back to acquire more assets and select Alt later?

Personally I think they need to draft one of Williams, Maye, MHJ or Daniels in that order.

Sure the Pats need a tackle, but that will just have to be a position they prioritize later in the draft. If they draft two tackles and a guard from the third round on that’s more likely to solve the issue than drafting multiple qbs after the third round.

Ideally the Pats would sign Onwenu to start at right tackle, then spend big money to bring in a top 5 free agent guard and tackle. I hope a good portion of the free agent budget goes to the oline, with a trade and extend situation probably being the most helpful.

 

[slash83]

Too bad Mac and Co suck, MHJ all day if we least had a capable QB. But unfortunately it’s the biggest need in the team and this is the draft to fill it.

 

[Sicilian]

After catching up on this thread I’m surprised at the number of people advocating for Alt at 3. Alt’s seems to be ranked behind the tackle from Penn State by most analysts. Would people want to trade back to acquire more assets and select Alt later?

Personally I think they need to draft one of Williams, Maye, MHJ or Daniels in that order.

Sure the Pats need a tackle, but that will just have to be a position they prioritize later in the draft. If they draft two tackles and a guard from the third round on that’s more likely to solve the issue than drafting multiple qbs after the third round.

Ideally the Pats would sign Onwenu to start at right tackle, then spend big money to bring in a top 5 free agent guard and tackle. I hope a good portion of the free agent budget goes to the oline, with a trade and extend situation probably being the most helpful.

The bold statement is the problem. The best free agent tackle on the market this year is Trent Brown. After that, Jermaine Eleumanor. You're not solving the tackle position on this team through free agency, unless you strike gold on a value signing (like if Calvin Anderson had actually worked out).

Your strategy of getting multiple guys in 2nd round and beyond isn't a bad one, and if a great QB is available 3 I think you have to do it. But I am not sold that there will be three great QBs to come out of this group, and MHJ isn't going to work if you don't have someone to throw to him (or a line that can actually unlock his route tree). That's why we advocate for Alt (or any elite LT) if QBs go 1 and 2. There will be a ton of receiver talent later in the draft this year too.

 

[Ivan]

If there's a QB there they think worth the pick they absolutely need to make that pick.

That was true of Mac at 15, even though it didn't work out, and it will be true of Williams, Maye, or someone else they think is the real deal at #3.
You can get top-tier WRs in FA or via trade - the opportunities come up.
You rarely see that with a QB and QB is by far the most important player on the field. By far. That's always been true, of course, but the rule changes and the protections offered to QBs have separate the QBs even more from the rest of the pack.

Agree completely. And given that you should be able to get a great LT prospect by trading from #35 back up into the second half of the first round you can really address the 2 biggest needs on Day One of the Draft. Then focus on WR in free agency, and with the rest of the Draft. Also, given the $$$ they have for free agency they could address depth and other needs n free agency, and instead of using the draft to fill a bunch of holes, trade picks, as with the OT in the first round, to get back into the 2nd round for a high quality receiving prospect.Examples : Coleman, Polk, Egbuka.

Come away with QB/Daniels, OT/Guyton/ WR Polk

 

[1960Pats]

I'm with Ty law on this give MH Jr or give me death.

The only thing to fear is fear itself.

 

[1960Pats]

F*ck that nonsense. Take the QB & control his rights for 5 years minimum if he’s legit. We have a top 3 pick. Why are people overthinking this..?..

There's no guarantee that any QB will make it no matter where he's picked. History has proven that.
That combined with the amount of holes on the Pats has me wanting them to trade back to get more picks.
Then if Bill isn't involved in the draft they'd have a better chance to rebuild.

 

[1960Pats]

Nor were there even many picks. In recent years we've spent more picks on WRs than we have over a decade.

You can tell that Bill made all those picks. There's not much to show for them.

 

[Guts]

For those in love with taking a OT here's the history of the first tackle taken since the 2018 NFL Draft
2018- Mike McGlinchey (pick 9 on his second team)
2019- Jonah Williams(pick 13 solid starter nothing spectacular)
2020- Andrew Thomas(pick 4 signed an extension great pick for Giants)
2021-Penei Sewell(pick 7 another home run pick)
2022 and 2023 is too early to tell
So I wouldn't be opposed in drafting Alt at 3 if you don't love a QB besides McGlinchey
Williams/Thomas/Sewell have all been great picks

 

[upstater1]

You can tell that Bill made all those picks. There's not much to show for them.

The picks are Pop Douglas, Tyquan Thornton, Kayshon Boutte and Tre Nixon in the 7th.

These are the 4 WRs we've taken in the last 4 drafts.

Focus is on Tyquan because he's a bust. The other 3 are decent picks.