Patriots Release Dominique Easley

[Jimke]

I hope the Patriots don't repeat the mistake by drafting Jaylon Smith in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

[zydecochris]

Yes. According to what I read this mornin

I read about this in Ian Logue's current column. Source quoted was Shalise Manza Young of Yahoo
Sports. "Scouts against drafting him but overruled by Lombardi".

I wonder if this is true? If so, it is interesting. Two aspects of being a general manager (which Lombardi used to be for the Raiders, then the Browns) are i) managing the draft; and ii) making roster moves to bring on players that fit the roster and strengthen the team.

In the second area, the Pats have been on an absolute roll the last two or three years, bringing in other team's cast-offs or practice squad players and turning them into productive players, while using almost no draft capital. Many of those players turn out to be one year rentals, but then we get compensatory picks back, a win-win. That "roll" that the Patriots have been on has corresponded with Lombardi's arrival, and I have to think that he plays some part in that, to his credit.

However, his history at drafting with the Raiders (he says that Al Davis would over-rule him, but still..) and the Browns wasn't strong.

Maybe Lombardi is an expert at poaching productive players from other teams, but he should be locked out of the draft room.

 

[Clonamery]

Wut?

Not disagreeing with your point on (self-discipline), measuring it against the party, good-time goofball personality of Gronk who becomes quite disciplined when it's time to work.

 

[Todd Bradley]

We don't get ANYTHING in return? C'mon... *someone* in the NFL would take a chance...

Yeah I mean even if he's a "locker room cancer", or so the mediots say..., I find it VERY, VERY HARD to believe you couldn't get a team like Dallas to give up at least 6th round pick for this guy.

He was a 1st rounder just two short years ago, who's shown a ton of ability. Injuries or not, he's a very talented DT. Just cutting him because "he didn't fit in" makes no sense at all....

Not sure I get Belichick's rational on this, but obviously Bill deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Brady6]

From our perspective, he's a bust. How on earth can you argue otherwise?

First a bust is generally a player drafted in the first half of the first round that does not make it in the NFL. The #29 overall pick is the same type of player you are going to find in the second round of the draft. Going back to 2008 the best #29 overall pick is Harrison Smith, he is the only one who has experienced much long term success in the NFL.

2008 – Kentwan Balmer
2009 – Hakeem Nicks
2010 – Kyle Wilson
2011 – Gabe Carimi
2012 – Harrison Smith
2013 – Cordarrelle Patterson
2015 – Phillip Dorsett

Second a bust is generally a player that has a very high likelihood of success, as I said in my prior post Easley does not fit that bill.

 

[1960Pats]

I guarantee that I will keep this thread to remind you and the rest of the quitter b.tches that you have no place enjoying their success this season. That's the price of quitting on them.

April 14, 2016. Triumph and his legion of quitters gave up on the Patriots once again.

Questioning Belichick's draft decisions is not quitting on the team.

-In spite of picking 30 more players than the Jests during the Belichick era there are only 3 or 4 more Pats' drafted players currently playing in the NFL, and one of those is Tom Brady who was drafted 16 years ago.
-The Pats have picked 20 more players than the Bills during the Belichick era but there are 10 more Bills drafted players still in the NFL.

And in the case of Easley, Belichick deserves some criticism. It was a bad pick.

 

[50-yard-line]

Questioning Belichick's draft decisions is not quitting on the team.

-In spite of picking 30 more players than the Jests during the Belichick era there are only 3 or 4 more Pats' drafted players currently playing in the NFL, and one of those is Tom Brady who was drafted 16 years ago.
-The Pats have picked 20 more players than the Bills during the Belichick era but there are 10 more Bills drafted players still in the NFL.

And in the case of Easley, Belichick deserves some criticism. It was a bad pick.

Well, other than the fact that both the Jets and the Bills pick way higher in every round almost every year...

 

[PF_SU]

-In spite of picking 30 more players than the Jests during the Belichick era there are only 3 or 4 more Pats' drafted players currently playing in the NFL, and one of those is Tom Brady who was drafted 16 years ago.
-The Pats have picked 20 more players than the Bills during the Belichick era but there are 10 more Bills drafted players still in the NFL.

Means nothing without analysing average draft position. To make an extreme example, team A can pick 10 seventh rounder and after five years 2 are still in the league. Another team drafts 5 first rounders and after five years 3 are still in the league. Does that mean that team A sucks at drafting compared to the other team?

 

[PatsFan2]

Easley though he showed flashes last season...should have never been a First Rounder based on his injury history. Gronk wasn't even a First Rounder based on those reasons alone. 2 years = consecutive IR's for Easley I wasn't optimistic going forward based on current trend regarding Easley....no Big loss. The Pats should have learned from Glass-I Dowling.

 

[mosey threetupu]

What I find interesting is that Easley is cut, everyone is bewildered as to why, then Suddenly these reports about him seeking alternative treatment, possible dog fighting, and locker room cancer appear. Yet no one had heard any of these things prior to him being cut. You can only ASSUme that the same people who kept all these issues quiet (the Patriots) are the same people now spreading these rumors. Which would make you think that the Pat's were OK with these things when they were hoping he could play.

Easley was a bad pick, and BB just shipped one of his best picks off for a late second round pick and a bigger bust than Easley. The Pat's are in trouble, first round picks are so valuable not only for the talent that they bring, but the fact that you can control them at a reasonable price for five years. So effectively the Pat's are without a first round pick for both 2016 and 2014, this will have a serious negative effect on the Pat's was Brady finishes up his career.

The Pats are in trouble? They were this close to going to another SB last year with almost no contribution from either of these guys.

 

[JackBauer]

First a bust is generally a player drafted in the first half of the first round that does not make it in the NFL.

That seems like a very arbitrary and overly narrow definition.

The #29 overall pick is the same type of player you are going to find in the second round of the draft. Going back to 2008 the best #29 overall pick is Harrison Smith, he is the only one who has experienced much long term success in the NFL.

2008 – Kentwan Balmer
2009 – Hakeem Nicks
2010 – Kyle Wilson
2011 – Gabe Carimi
2012 – Harrison Smith
2013 – Cordarrelle Patterson
2015 – Phillip Dorsett

Second a bust is generally a player that has a very high likelihood of success, as I said in my prior post Easley does not fit that bill.

I think the problem is that we're operating off different definitions of the term. To me, any player can bust--it simply means they don't pan out. Obviously not all busts are created equal. Jamarcus Russell is not Dom Easley, just as Dom Easley is not Jon Halapio. And just because a player busts doesn't mean they were a bad pick.

 

[IllegalContact]

Questioning Belichick's draft decisions is not quitting on the team.

-In spite of picking 30 more players than the Jests during the Belichick era there are only 3 or 4 more Pats' drafted players currently playing in the NFL, and one of those is Tom Brady who was drafted 16 years ago.
-The Pats have picked 20 more players than the Bills during the Belichick era but there are 10 more Bills drafted players still in the NFL.

And in the case of Easley, Belichick deserves some criticism. It was a bad pick.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

It's still telling to me that the Pats couldn't even get anything for Easley. Presumably they did their due diligence. But they couldn't even get someone's trash, in a change-of-scenery trade. If Seattle and Gus Bradley wanted Easley with #32 in 2014, I'm surprised they didn't try to work out an Easley for Luke Joeckel deal. Take a chance on Joeckel as a swing tackle who could blossom into his full potential under Dante, while the same argument could be made for Easley with Bradley in Jacksonville. Very interesting to me it was a flat-out cut.

 

[Clonamery]

It's still telling to me that the Pats couldn't even get anything for Easley. Presumably they did their due diligence. But they couldn't even get someone's trash, in a change-of-scenery trade. If Seattle and Gus Bradley wanted Easley with #32 in 2014, I'm surprised they didn't try to work out an Easley for Luke Joeckel deal. Take a chance on Joeckel as a swing tackle who could blossom into his full potential under Dante, while the same argument could be made for Easley with Bradley in Jacksonville. Very interesting to me it was a flat-out cut.

Perhaps they felt he couldn't pass a physical if traded and why waste the time....

 

[zydecochris]

It's still telling to me that the Pats couldn't even get anything for Easley. Presumably they did their due diligence. But they couldn't even get someone's trash, in a change-of-scenery trade. If Seattle and Gus Bradley wanted Easley with #32 in 2014, I'm surprised they didn't try to work out an Easley for Luke Joeckel deal. Take a chance on Joeckel as a swing tackle who could blossom into his full potential under Dante, while the same argument could be made for Easley with Bradley in Jacksonville. Very interesting to me it was a flat-out cut.

I wouldn't be shocked if there is another shoe to drop, maybe a pending legal issue (apart from the lawsuits).

 

[RobertWeathers]

I wonder if this is true? If so, it is interesting. Two aspects of being a general manager (which Lombardi used to be for the Raiders, then the Browns) are i) managing the draft; and ii) making roster moves to bring on players that fit the roster and strengthen the team.

In the second area, the Pats have been on an absolute roll the last two or three years, bringing in other team's cast-offs or practice squad players and turning them into productive players, while using almost no draft capital. Many of those players turn out to be one year rentals, but then we get compensatory picks back, a win-win. That "roll" that the Patriots have been on has corresponded with Lombardi's arrival, and I have to think that he plays some part in that, to his credit.

However, his history at drafting with the Raiders (he says that Al Davis would over-rule him, but still..) and the Browns wasn't strong.

Maybe Lombardi is an expert at poaching productive players from other teams, but he should be locked out of the draft room.

What I don't like is this implies the pecking order to be Caserio -> Lombardi -> BB

My perception is that Lombardi is a middle of the road to below average personnel guy.

 

[IllegalContact]

does the dude suck because he's gone or gone because he sucks?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Let's not forget Bill comes from a military environment. Easley may be a nice guy, and may just have a problem taking orders or submitting to an authoritarian system. That doesnt make him a bad person, it just makes him an Ex-Patriot.

Depending on what you believe his behavior makes him a crappy employee and an entitled, selfish, prima-donna with little respect for authority or his teammates.

 

[RobertWeathers]

What an A-hole that guy is. Absolutely can't have him around

I'm sure he got some help from his agents ghostwriting that.

 

[manxman2601]

And Josh Perry who I think is one of @manxman2601 binkies

Not a binky, just think he fits what the Pats look for in a linebacker and character.