NFL Appeal oral arguments thread

[Froob]

Proper notice of punishment for violations, ability to cross examine Jeffrey Pash, and lack of consistency in punishment for similar violations.

It could be the judges decide to split the baby and overturn some of the rulings, but not all.

Not sure how any rational person could argue any of those. At LEAST the second one. We have easy proof of that.

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

Good thing Chin isn't Polish or the Archie Bunkers would all be coming out of the woodwork.

Let's simply hope that Chin's crazy ass remark was a misquote or the judge's clumsy way of wanting to appear "tough" on both sides.

 

[Jlaff]

no need to get dander up...blah blah.......it goes back to a near original point in the proceeding .... Parker questioning whether ball inflation provides an advantage.

I think that based along those lines, the argument does not get past the fact that there is no evidence that ball inflation is an advantage.

Who were the idiots that said they would not be arguing this ****?

I guess arguing that some actual wrongdoing be a condition precedent to punishment was too "layman" an argument for some.

 

[sevengables_2207]

I thought asians were intelligent.

 

[Hoodie]

 

[BradyFTW!]

Let's simply hope that Chin's crazy ass remark was a misquote or the judge's clumsy way of wanting to appear "tough" on both sides.

The fact that Wallach and McCann (who were there) seem confident that Chin will rule for the NFL is worrisome. If they think it's going to be 2-1 against Brady, then I'm not at all optimistic.

 

[sb1]

Hurley doesn't sound very optimistic about how things went today. Oh well....

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolin 3m3 minutes ago


At one point Kessler became exasperated with the judges. “I sense that you all are influenced by your version of the facts.”


Ouch

i hope that's a typical MCI misquote or repetition of what he thought he heard someone else say he thought he heard Kessler say, because if he said that, Kessler lost his cool and that's usually a mistake with Federal Judges. I was surprised that Kessler took the lead today and not Johnson, the Appellate lawyer.

 

[ANGR89]

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolin 3m3 minutes ago


At one point Kessler became exasperated with the judges. “I sense that you all are influenced by your version of the facts.”


Ouch

Kessler didn't really say this did he?

 

[JMC00]

Does not sound good for Mr. Brady from the early tweets.

Like it didn't sound good when this initially went in front of Berman right??

 

[RobertWeathers]

Let's simply hope that Chin's crazy ass remark was a misquote or the judge's clumsy way of wanting to appear "tough" on both sides.

Yea I'm not going to get too excited over it. Its annoying nonetheless....

 

[sb1]

Michael Hurley ‏@michaelFhurley 32s33 seconds ago


More from Parker: "If federal rules apply to arbitrations, your point would be well taken. But this is arbitration. It's casual."

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

The fact that Wallach and McCann (who were there) seem confident that Chin will rule for the NFL is worrisome. If they think it's going to be 2-1 against Brady, then I'm not at all optimistic.

Great! More appeals, more BS!

 

[reflexblue]

And the children !

Yes,what about the children.

 

[Gronkowski123]

this sounds bad..

kessler got his ass kicked. judges showing that they will rule for the nfl, similar how berman did the same for brady. i don't think theyre playing " devils advocate "

incredible since nothing actually happened

 

[Fixit]

Michael Hurley ‏@michaelFhurley 32s33 seconds ago


More from Parker: "If federal rules apply to arbitrations, your point would be well taken. But this is arbitration. It's casual."

"Super casual. It's only a guy's career and reputation, anyway. Everyone wears shorts and flip-flops."

 

[TBR]

wow.

I hope I don't get drowned with PC backlash, but it's just a joke. In reference to, if anything, the complimentary stereotype of asians being super smart. Chin must be an anomaly if he truly thinks what he does.

 

[RobertWeathers]

i hope that's a typical MCI misquote or repetition of what he thought he heard someone else say he thought he heard Kessler say, because if he said that, Kessler lost his cool and that's usually a mistake with Federal Judges. I was surprised that Kessler took the lead today and not Johnson, the Appellate lawyer.

I'm not a lawyer but that seems to me to not be a wise thing to say to 3 federal judges.

On the same level not like hes Johnnie Cochran up there calling everyone and their mother a bigot....

 

[sb1]

Kessler didn't really say this did he?

Judge Parker's response: "We are influenced by the briefs you gentlemen filed"

 

[QuantumMechanic]

It goes back to Berman in some form

Not necessarily. If the panel reverses Berman it can go two ways:

• Only reverse Berman on the things he explicitly considered and remand back to him to decide the things the NFLPA brought up but he didn't consider the first time around.
• Reverse Berman on the things he explicitly considered, find for the NFL on the things he didn't explicitly consider, and end the case without sending it back to Berman.