Patriot Way Coming to the Detroit Lions Under the Direction of Norwood's Bob Quinn

[manxman2601]

How about their first for our second and Jimmy G

That would become a late first because we'd lose the Lions pick but regain our own.

 

[Wheelman]

I think this is why JMD is not interviewing.

He already knows where he is going.

Tampa, Tenn or Detroit.

All 3 teams have a franchise QB.

Is there a source of him not interviewing for the lolphins and any other team?

 

[RobertWeathers]

How about their first for our second and Jimmy G

They have Stafford. Why do they want Jimmy?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Is there a source of him not interviewing for the lolphins and any other team?

Josh McDaniels not scheduled for any interviews this weekend

 

[manxman2601]

They have Stafford. Why do they want Jimmy?

It's assuming Josh McDaniels goes there and doesn't want to work with Stafford - in a weak QB year in the draft, presumably they could trade Stafford for a fair haul.

I also don't think it was that serious a proposition.

 

[JMC00]

I'm just whining here, but I truly believe if you hire away another team's personnel for a position of great importance in your organization (Head Coach/General Manager) then you should compensate that other team accordingly.

3rd, 4th, 5th somewhere in that range.

Anyway, best of luck to Mr Quinn and respect to Bill Belichick who by all accounts stood behind and supported this promotion outside of NE.

Why should another team have to compensate a team for someone who they are hiring for a better position than he currently has? Pats had a chance to ask Quinn to stay. A scout being hired as a GM is no different than a coordinator being hired as a HC.

Now hiring a guy for the same position is different story.

 

[RobertWeathers]

It's assuming Josh McDaniels goes there and doesn't want to work with Stafford - in a weak QB year in the draft, presumably they could trade Stafford for a fair haul.

I also don't think it was that serious a proposition.

yea you never know. I hold Stafford in a higher regard than Cutler but my impression is that he's not "field general" and not the smartest guy in the classroom but I dont follow the Lions closely enough.

But....Stafford has talent to burn.

 

[Danger Zone]

Why should another team have to compensate a team for someone who they are hiring for a better position than he currently has? Pats had a chance to ask Quinn to stay. A scout being hired as a GM is no different than a coordinator being hired as a HC.

Now hiring a guy for the same position is different story.

Because he's under contract and as almost always is the case, when a competitor wants to hire away someone under contract there is compensation to the employer to be worked out.

I understand the upwards mobility design of it all, but I still feel there should be compensation. Just my opinion.

 

[dales804]

Because he's under contract and as almost always is the case, when a competitor wants to hire away someone under contract there is compensation to the employer to be worked out.

I understand the upwards mobility design of it all, but I still feel there should be compensation. Just my opinion.

It can suck for the team but the guy got a promotion the Pats couldn't, or wouldn't, give him. It's a good thing for his career. I get what you're saying but the team he's leaving just has to bite the bullet and wish him well.

 

[manxman2601]

I'm all for an increase in potential trade partners for BB.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Funny how Belichick the GM tree is growing and nobody has yet to duplicate his coaching.

 

[varjao]

I think this is why JMD is not interviewing.

He already knows where he is going.

Tampa, Tenn or Detroit.

All 3 teams have a franchise QB.

3 bad jobs.

The Titans is a question mark as of now, the other 2 franchises we know how it ends, also they play in divisions that are set for the next few years. Titans may be the best option between these 3.

 

[RobertWeathers]

3 bad jobs.

The Titans is a question mark as of now, the other 2 franchises we know how it ends, also they play in divisions that are set for the next few years. Titans may be the best option between these 3.

Yea they aren't ideal by any stretch.

I think if I were to rank them...

1) Titans- Bud Adams is pretty much out of the picture with his daughter Amy running things who seems to have a strong business mind. Of course Mariota is there and they look to have a healthy cap situation in 2016.

2) Detroit- While Mrs. Ford is in her 80's, she seems to have turned the reigns over to Quinn to run. I'm assuming Quinn and Josh would get along great. DET has a good QB (leadership questionable) and decent talent sprinkled around the roster. My issue with DET is that they are not a solid team financially.

3) While it looks like Robinson is going there and they have a ton of cap space in 2016 plus a high pick coming, there is just something about Winston and the Glazer kids that is just off. It should seem like the best situation of the 3 but something tells me to stay away.

 

[Froob]

Jim Bob Cooter dumbed a lot down for him. He had a very good year. Hes entering his prime so who knows.

Yeah I think he's too good to just dump. Actually had a very quality year. Cardwell is an interesting case, the eye test says he sucks but his record tells another story. I say he gets another year.

 

[everlong]

That would become a late first because we'd lose the Lions pick but regain our own.

In 2008 they lost the 32nd and still retained SF's #7 choice which they trade to NO and draft Mayo while the Jets drafted Gholston at #6. I don't recall their being language in the punishment this time calling for the higher of the draft choices. What would the league do with a draft day trade? Stop the draft and say NE trades up up loses their pick but now have the 32nd? Not that I wouldn't put it past them but it seems unrealistic.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yeah I think he's too good to just dump. Actually had a very quality year. Cardwell is an interesting case, the eye test says he sucks but his record tells another story. I say he gets another year.

Yea I don't question Stafford's talent. I question his ability to be a game manager and lead.

For 14 years we've been privileged to watch the GoAT all time every Sunday. For every QB to be held to that standard is impossible so I don't want to be too harsh in my judgement.

 

[manxman2601]

In 2008 they lost the 32nd and still retained SF's #7 choice which they trade to NO and draft Mayo while the Jets drafted Gholston at #6. I don't recall their being language in the punishment this time calling for the higher of the draft choices. What would the league do with a draft day trade? Stop the draft and say NE trades up up loses their pick but now have the 32nd? Not that I wouldn't put it past them but it seems unrealistic.

From the NFL statement:

For the violation of the playing rules and the failure to cooperate in the subsequent investigation, the New England Patriots are fined $1 million and will forfeit the club's first-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft and the club's fourth-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft. If the Patriots have more than one selection in either of these rounds, the earlier selection shall be forfeited. The club may not trade or otherwise encumber these selections.

And in answer to your hypothetical, that's exactly what would happen.

 

[patchick]

I just can't imagine a coach going from Brady's discipline to staffords texas playground style. Mcdaniels would age worse than Gollum.

Now I'm picturing a gnarled 500-year-old McDaniels, clutching an ancient photo of Tom Brady and murmuring "my precioussss."

 

[Hammer of Thor]

I'm all for an increase in potential trade partners for BB.

There have been rumors that Josh McDaniels is interested in the Titans job. He did not interview for any other coaching opening. The Titans still have an opening, and now their GM is a former Patriots colleague (although I think they only overlapped by 2 years). Potential landing spot?

 

[manxman2601]

There have been rumors that Josh McDaniels is interested in the Titans job. He did not interview for any other coaching opening. The Titans still have an opening, and now their GM is a former Patriots colleague (although I think they only overlapped by 2 years). Potential landing spot?

Very possibly. We still haven't heard much about Chip Kelly either for whom the Titans seems like an obvious landing spot.