zippo59
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.When is the supplemental draft? It's not after the season starts, right?
its in July if i remember correctly
No, from everything I've heard he's a good guy. He just didn't keep his grades high enough to play his senior year. Oliver could have came out after his junior year but decided graduating was more important to him, so it's kind of a shocker his grades were low.
It's definitely strange. You would think that if academics were important enough to get him to stay in school over entering a lucrative career that he would be able to maintain higher grades.
Did he "flunk out" or was he simply not academically qualified?
Good call:
"University of Georgia senior cornerback Paul Oliver has failed to meet NCAA academic eligibility requirements for competition this fall and plans to petition the NFL for entry into the supplemental draft this summer. Oliver's situation does not preclude him from remaining enrolled in school."
http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6534041
Yea, I think he just didn't have good enough grades to continue playing football. I don't know what their particular standards are, though.Did he "flunk out" or was he simply not academically qualified? Or perhaps he got a damning "incomplete" in a class (="F")...
Often, particularly programs with recent transgressions, have minimum academic demands higher than the general student populace.
i.e: Must maintain a 2.5, 2.7, etc. A "C" is 2.0, which is usually fine. If he simply dipped below that, that's no so bad.
I don't know in this case, so I ask.
Also: In either case, and assuming he's had no agent contact/arrests/etc., why wouldn't he be eligible for the supp?
Good call:
"University of Georgia senior cornerback Paul Oliver has failed to meet NCAA academic eligibility requirements for competition this fall and plans to petition the NFL for entry into the supplemental draft this summer. Oliver's situation does not preclude him from remaining enrolled in school."
http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6534041
If he is as good as the hype I think he is worth a 3rd rounder maybe even a 2nd rounder. He would have been a top 50 pick this year and a round 1 pick in 2008. Our 2008 2nd round pick will likely be around 62-64 (in our hearts we all know it will be 64!).
He should be able to work as the 5th CB and provide insurance for 2008 when all of our CBs are FAs (Hobbs is the only one under contract beyond 2007).
I was also on the Ahmad Brooks bandwagon, a 3rd rounder for a potential starting ILB seemed cheap to me but then I forgot the Patriots don't draft LBs on day 1 (until next year when they take 2 James Laurinaitis, Ohio State & Shawn Crable, Michigan)
No, they are drafting Rey Maualuga next year! LOL
Maualuga has 'character' issues. Pats won't touch him with a 10 foot pole - well that is until he is tired of playing for a perennial loser and the Pats get him on the cheap.
IF the skills are as good as advertized, I take a shot at him with the Oakland 3rd. Not only would we be getting what would be concidered a steal in the 3rd round, we would be getting a full year's work out of him, instead of having to wait a season to use the pick. It would even be better if we could get him for the 2nd third round pick.
BTW- Interesting about Ahmed Brooks. I got me wondering how did this past year? Was he worth the pick?
I am not sure but I think you can't use traded picks in the supplemental draft.
Brooks did ok, he played as a backup and made a few spot starts. He is expected to be a starter for the Bengals this year. They play a much different defense than the Patriots but it will be interesting to watch.
Actually, I believe you can use a pick that was traded to you, as long as it is EARLIER than your determined slot. For example, in a hypothetical situation where the Patriots did not have their original third round pick, they could use a third round pick they acquired from the Raiders, but not one they acquired from the Colts. I remember the Redskins made a trade with the Patriots 4-5 years ago to satisfy such a requirement.
I'm not 100% on this, though. It's possible the trade I'm recalling has to do with free agent tenders or some other compensation system.
I don't think the Pats would spend more than a 4th rounder on a supplemental draftee. If you look at the history of the supplemental draft, very few players actually get picked. I'm not sure about the odds of those guys panning out, but it's probably pretty low.
Here's an article on the supplemental draft
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6452668