Bobsyouruncle
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Edelman, Amendola exchange. One could feel the emotion in the huddle on the Patriots’ go-ahead drive. Danny Amendola turned to Julian Edelman and said, “Hey, you gotta believe, bro.” Edelman’s response, “You got to believe. I love you buddy.” Then Edelman went up to the offensive linemen and told them he loved them before saying, “Let’s go!” Later, Edelman said to coach Bill Belichick, "You gave me the best year of my life. I'd do anything for you." Belichick turned it back to Edelman, saying, "You guys went out and won it. It's a player's game."
Denver Broncos wide receiver Wes Welker told Sports Illustrated that Bill Belichick was hard on him toward the end of his six-year run in New England, chiding him in front of teammates in a way the coach hadn't done previously.
"It was just kind of hard," Welker told the magazine in a story that appears in this week's edition, "one of those deals where you have to endure him, put up with him. ... But he does it to everybody. It's the way he is."
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Belichick disciplined Welker in early 2011, benching him for the first series of a playoff game against the New York Jets after the receiver made foot-related comments in a subtle dig at Jets coach Rex Ryan. Welker later said he regretted his comments.
Earlier this summer, Welker said he felt like he could be himself more with the Broncos than he did in New England, where Belichick instructs his players to say little to the media. Still, Welker acknowledged that even now in Denver he still thinks about his former coach when talking to reporters.
"When I'm answering questions from the Denver media, I'm not worried about what the Broncos' people are going to think," Welker told SI. "I'm worried about what Belichick will think. Isn't that crazy?"
I think both JE and WW are fantastic players and the NE Patriots are fortunate to have such players dressing. It makes up for the below-par drafting of WRs in NE.
Both JE and WW will make be highly valuable assets in their primes. Here is how I will break the tie between them: Contributions to the team.
Imagine that there is only a single roster spot left for either WW or JE (because we need 10 safeties from Rutgers d%#*!@t). Who would you pick? My pick is JE.
My rationale:
A. JE brings more to the team in his versatility. He is a much better punt returner and in a pinch, he can play as a DB. He also brings his QB experience and so the double pass and other options open up for the coaching staff. WW brings less to the table.
B. JE can do more with less of a supporting cast. I believe that WW benefited greatly in the slot by having the vertical threat of Moss stretching the defence and clearing the middle of the field. While Gronk is also a beast like Moss, he is not doing so by running deep post routes and NE has not fielded a legit deep threat since Moss' angry departure. So, even with opposing secondaries knowing NE is going to be limited to the middle of the field more, JE is still making things happen. If I am going to be building a roster and I know that I could lose some pieces which makes my offence more one dimensional, I will prefer to have JE.
C. He is more handsome. I kid I kid. haha. But he does have more athletic ability, esp in his straight line speed. Now, if I am going to be depending on my WRs getting lots of YAC, I want speed as well as shiftiness. I was always disappointed that WW could not turn on the jets. I recall in week 5, 2011 season vs the jets (see what I did there?), WW had a 73 catch and run but was caught by Revis. JE will NOT be caught by Revis.
D. Other intangibles? He seems to toe the line and support the coach and not put his foot in his mouth about other coaches (tee hee). He also seems to be more media savvy and opposing fans seem to respect him. It helps for an organisation like NE, which is hated nation-wide outside of NE (minus CT).
E. Attitude. JE saw a threat to his job (DA coming in) and worked even harder to secure his spot as the number one receiver. WW saw JE coming in, but missed the references to Wally Pipp and ultimately made himself expendable but not making more of an effort to get better. Had he done so, NE would have fought harder for his services.
In summary - it's JE tyme people!
Amazing how we found someone to replace Welker
Now if we could just find someone to replace Moss
In UFC Gronk would rip Moss's spine out, lolDifferent positions but Gronk>Moss
Amazing how we found someone to replace Welker
Now if we could just find someone to replace Moss
FWIW, the degree of difficulty on those two catches wasn't really comparable. That was a tough catch for Welker--granted, at least in part because he had a small catch radius--and unfortunately he couldn't haul it in.
For Edelman's, the route itself was the difficult part of that play, and it worked so well that the resulting catch was pretty easy.
None of which changes the simple fact that the degree of difficulty on the pass to Welker was way higher. I can think of a LOT of passes where a receiver got a hand on the ball but couldn't reasonably be expected to catch it.Oldest addage in football, "if you can get a hand on the ball, you make the catch." They teach you that in Pee Wee football. Welker had TWO hands on the ball.
Winning is built on making plays, not excuses...