Dolphins Trivia help please - how many draft picks wasted since 2000?

[Rob0729]

How many of those players sat behind a legit starter?? Crowder is a starter, Roth will be this year Daniels was a starter his first season, but a high ankle sprain kept him out of the lineup last year. Miami didn't resign Vets like Carter because even though he produced he wasn't worth what he was making and Roth really came on last year. Jason Allen was abused by Saban as were most of our secondary he's schemes were just to complicated. Will Allen is in the prime of his career and had one of the best seasons he's had as a pro last year and how old is Harrison?? Allen has a lot of years left in him.



30 isn't old man, it's the prime of a football players career, if Jason Taylor or Zach Thomas were falling off, you would have a point, but you're trying to make an issue out of age when the players you're talking about are the best in the NFL. No matter who's behind them their youth can't make up for the talent JT and ZT have, so what does it matter their age. Miami is making plans to replace those players through the draft and have drafted youth. You have youngger players behind your veterans, but they won't replace the experience and talent of the veterans on your team.....but the youth is there.



Most of Miami's secondary is under 30, we may have an older front 7 but they are also one of the most talented front 7's and you Pat fans make an issue out of the Dolphins age and every year we have a better D. You make way to much out of the age of players. If they can play they can play, age is just an excuse for fans like you to criticize when you can't knock there performance.

The Dolphins had a better D last year? The Pats had a better defense last year. The Pats gave up 14.8 PPG (2nd in the NFL) and th Dolphins gave up 17.7 PPG (5th). The Patriots had 32 takeaways last year compared to the Dolphins 26. New England allowed the other team convert third downs 35.9% of the time and Miami allowed it 38.0% of the time. Yes, Miami did give up 10 less yards per game last year which in the league's stupid offensive and defensive ranking it makes them a better defense, but in reality the Pats had the better defense.

As for the look at the people in front of them excuse. If these young guys were so go, why would they bring back aged guys like Holiday, Carter, and Traylor to start. The Pats aren't afraid to let many of their older players go and replace them with younger guys. We dumped Traylor two years ago and you still have him starting.

 

[feelthepain]

The Dolphins had a better D last year? The Pats had a better defense last year. The Pats gave up 14.8 PPG (2nd in the NFL) and th Dolphins gave up 17.7 PPG (5th). The Patriots had 32 takeaways last year compared to the Dolphins 26. New England allowed the other team convert third downs 35.9% of the time and Miami allowed it 38.0% of the time. Yes, Miami did give up 10 less yards per game last year which in the league's stupid offensive and defensive ranking it makes them a better defense, but in reality the Pats had the better defense.

As for the look at the people in front of them excuse. If these young guys were so go, why would they bring back aged guys like Holiday, Carter, and Traylor to start. The Pats aren't afraid to let many of their older players go and replace them with younger guys. We dumped Traylor two years ago and you still have him starting.

The Dolphins 4th overall Defense the Pats 6th...sorry to but your bubble with facts.

 

[DaBruinz]

Most of Miami's secondary is under 30, we may have an older front 7 but they are also one of the most talented front 7's and you Pat fans make an issue out of the Dolphins age and every year we have a better D. You make way to much out of the age of players. If they can play they can play, age is just an excuse for fans like you to criticize when you can't knock there performance.

Man- You are whacked out if you think that Miami's Front 7 is one of the most talented in the league. NOT EVEN CLOSE. They are LUCKY to be around 15 or so. And that is with considering Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas.

The Pats front 7 is tremendously more talented than the Maimi Front 7.

 

[DaBruinz]

The Dolphins 4th overall Defense the Pats 6th...sorry to but your bubble with facts.

Give me a frigging break. YARDS don't matter. POINTS ALLOWED is what matters.

No wonder you can't have a legit football conversation.

 

[DefenseRules]

WOW, TED GINN?

 

[Rob0729]

The Dolphins 4th overall Defense the Pats 6th...sorry to but your bubble with facts.

Good for you! The Dolphins did give up ten less yards a game. The Pats were obviously the worse of the two teams. I guess they will have to console themselves with the fact they gave up less points, allowed the opposing team to convert a smaller percentage of third downs, and created more turnovers. Those three stats wins games, but you go with the stupid NFL ranking of only yards.

Good luck with Ted Ginn! You could have had a franchise QB, but you chose a #3 WR who you hope turns into Devin Hester but probably won't since a Hester comes around once every five to ten years.

 

[feelthepain]

Good for you! The Dolphins did give up ten less yards a game. The Pats were obviously the worse of the two teams. I guess they will have to console themselves with the fact they gave up less points, allowed the opposing team to convert a smaller percentage of third downs, and created more turnovers. Those three stats wins games, but you go with the stupid NFL ranking of only yards.

Good luck with Ted Ginn! You could have had a franchise QB, but you chose a #3 WR who you hope turns into Devin Hester but probably won't since a Hester comes around once every five to ten years.

Yeah and did Miami 's defense get even the smallest amount of help from their offense?? How much help did NE's O give their D??? Hmmmm, think that makes a difference at all??

 

[DaBruinz]

JSP -
With the Phins releasing Manuel Wright today, you can chalk up another WASTED draft pick by them. Granted, it was a suplementary 5th (became the Phines 2006 5th rounder), but still a wasted pick.

 

[feelthepain]

JSP -
With the Phins releasing Manuel Wright today, you can chalk up another WASTED draft pick by them. Granted, it was a suplementary 5th (became the Phines 2006 5th rounder), but still a wasted pick.

And yet the Pats still can't seem to dominate the Fins, infact I think the last game with Joey Harrington was a blowout. Wow, the Pats are awsome!!

 

[DaBruinz]

And yet the Pats still can't seem to dominate the Fins, infact I think the last game with Joey Harrington was a blowout. Wow, the Pats are awsome!!

Teams have bad games. But you seem too stupid to understand that.

 

[feelthepain]

Teams have bad games. But you seem too stupid to understand that.

Ahhh, you insult when you have nothing to say worth listening to. That's the kind of response I would expect from a child, Congrats!!

 

[TheSeymonsta]

Without Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas that team will be shot.



That will be sooner rather than later....

 

[Welker83]

I've been trying to get some of our resident Fin Fans to help me with this but for some reason they keep ignoring the question.

I'm trying to figure out how many draft picks the Dolphins have wasted since 1999.

Since about 2000 they've given up second round choices for AJ Feely and Culpepper and I'm not sure who else... but I'm thinking to find a QB alone they've given up about an entire draft worth of players - not to mention all the $$$ they've spent on paying free agents and the players.

And of course they gave up what I think might have been two first rounders to the Saints to get Ricky Williams from them - I can't seem to find out how many yard Williams had for the Fins last season but I'm guessing he wasn't worth it.

So can anyone help give me a full tally? I can't wait to see what the Fins do this year as well - maybe they should just take QB with every draft pick and be done with it. After all, even a blind squirrel can sometimes find a nut.

A wasted pick would mena a failed experiment so here it goes...failures that were traded for with draft picks:
David Boston: 6th rounder and Jamar fletcher(former 1st round pick)
A.J. Feeley: 2nd rounder
Sage rosenfels: 7th rounder (not really a failure, but never got to be a starter)
Daunte culpepper: 2nd rounder (but only if he is cut, or does not start this season)
Vernon carey: Wasted a 4th round pick to jump up and grab him in the 1st when it wasn't required. Vernon himself is not a wasted pick or a bust.
Joey Harrington:6th upgraded to a 5th due to playing time incentives.
Manuel Wright: 5th rounder (just got cut)
Tony Bua: 5th rounder cut in year 2 (just a flat out bad pick for a ST only guy)
Lamar smith:3rd rounder. Injured in the second game, cut the next year


Those are the ones that come to mind...