What would your ideal Patriots draft look like? (realistic)

[bakes781]

The odds of this happening are essentially zero. Solve the "problem" of no second rounders by getting two seconds and NO thirds, fourths, OR fifths?

it is a quandry I fell into but with 4 comp picks there's only so much manuevering you can do. Atlanta has 2 picks in the 2nd round & Philly is without a 4th round pick. They do fall in line with the draft value chart & by getting pick #39 you sneak just ahead of Miami & with #57 ahead of both Miami & the Jets.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

With four second day comp picks, why not? The best value is in the second round, so I'll make those trades. The danger is falling asleep between picks. We've all said that there's no room for ten players. To me, it makes more sense getting rid of 3s, 4s, and 5s, than getting rid of the additional #1.

As I see it, once you take a Revis or Wilson at the end of round one, those three's and fours give you a more flexible menu selection:
S - Gattis, Piscitelli, Wendling, Payne, Stone, Alexander, Frampton...
LB - Moore, Robison, Waters, DeOssie...
OT - Otto, Taylor, Martin...
TE - Boss, Newton, Harline, Rosario...
OG/OC - Beekman, Datish, Harris, Vallos, Jones (IA), Ramierez...
DT - Johnson, Soliai, Alford, Mebane...
WR - Walker, Allison, Clowney, Myles, Taylor, McKnight...
CB - Davis, Young, Jackson, Mixon, Coe, Smith (FL)...
RB - Jackson, Bush, Walker, Smith, Henry...
QB - blah...

I'm less concerned with how many will make the roster, I'd rather bring in the deepest competition pool possible - we should be pulling each others hair out over which player is doing more to help himself and the team. Bam can get the third year Practice Squad slot, but he should be fighting for his life. The same with S.Thomas. Billy Yates too, who has to make the 53 to stick. The Pats currently have 68 or so on the roster. If memory serves, they can carry close to 90 players into Training Camp with the NFLE exemptions. There is room for competition at each position (including punter for the Sepulvada fans), with the greatest need for competition (to my thinking) at LB, S, RB, CB, OT, TE in that order.

I didn't try to forecast a trade down in MWP's dream mock, but getting Bradley at 24, followed by a trade back to mid-second and getting Wilson, with at least another third, does the most for me in this draft. Maybe I'll go mock MWP with a trade...

 

[dryheat44]

As I see it, once you take a Revis or Wilson at the end of round one, those three's and fours give you a more flexible menu selection:

Given. But I'd rather have two 1s and two 2s than two 1s, a 3&4&5. Wouldn't that be an even more flexible menu, since all those players figuring to go in the second round are now in play? There's no harm in reaching if you really want to draft a third round talent in the second. We're getting at least 8 picks either way, which should provide for plenty of competition when you factor in the 10 undrafted free agents and the cheap vets in camp. If we can come out of the draft with Carriker, Spencer, Harris, and Wilson, that would be phenomenal.

 

[Clonamery]

Given. But I'd rather have two 1s and two 2s than two 1s, a 3&4&5. Wouldn't that be an even more flexible menu, since all those players figuring to go in the second round? There's no harm in reaching if you really want to draft a third round talent in the second. We're getting at least 8 picks either way, which should provide for plenty of competition when you factor in the 10 undrafted free agents and the cheap vets in camp. If we can come out of the draft with Carriker, Spencer, Harris, and Wilson, that would be phenomenal.

I'm with you. I think the talent level and value speak to that in this draft.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Given. But I'd rather have two 1s and two 2s than two 1s, a 3&4&5. Wouldn't that be an even more flexible menu, since all those players figuring to go in the second round? There's no harm in reaching if you really want to draft a third round talent in the second. We're getting at least 8 picks either way, which should provide for plenty of competition when you factor in the 10 undrafted free agents and the cheap vets in camp. If we can come out of the draft with Carriker, Spencer, Harris, and Wilson, that would be phenomenal.

Well that's every draft podner! 2 ones and 2 twos would make Day One a lot easier given the lack of depth in this draft. You could really do a number on my top three draft needs by taking Bradley, Woodley, Wilson, and Leonard.

 

[bakes781]

My theory going into this draft is getting the BPA at 24 regardless of position with the exception of QB obviously. That said I highly doubt Quinn drops that far anyway. If you haven't addressed a need(LB/DB) with 24 then it becomes rather imperative that you do so with pick 28. That doesn't mean you have to take what's given to you there. If there was a run on LBs & DBs early then it makes more sense to trade out of the 1st round. I think Atlanta is the perfect trading partner. Weddle isn't necessarily my #1 option, but the difference between he & Meriweather is probably minimal IMO. Now you have an additional pick in the 3rd round to play with. David Harris is the only top ILB prospect other than Patrick Willis that I could see fitting the 3-4. So using two 3rd round picks to get a player of need that let's just for the sake of argument say fell similar to how Chad Jackson fell in the 2nd round last year seems like a wise move IMO.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

David Harris is the only top ILB prospect other than Patrick Willis that I could see fitting the 3-4.

How do you define "top" ILB? Top three, top five? Is an OLB who can play ILB, but is unrated as an ILB, sutable? Just curious as to your thinking, picking your brain to get the context straight in my mind.

 

[bakes781]

How do you define "top" ILB? Top three, top five? Is an OLB who can play ILB, but is unrated as an ILB, sutable? Just curious as to your thinking, picking your brain to get the context straight in my mind.

Day one worthy. I would think most of the ratings are based on 4-3 defenses & so if they're being rated as an OLB they'd probably be too small to play ILB in a 3-4. Now that I look at the ratings for OLB more closely one name that does jump out at me is Stewart Bradley, 6-3 256lbs of Nebraska that could fit.

I think you have to trust that SOME players will come to you rather than trading up and reaching for guys like Weddle.

Technically I traded down to get Weddle & traded up to get Harris.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Day one worthy. I would think most of the ratings are based on 4-3 defenses & so if they're being rated as an OLB they'd probably be too small to play ILB in a 3-4. Now that I look at the ratings for OLB more closely one name that does jump out at me is Stewart Bradley, 6-3 256lbs of Nebraska that could fit.



Technically I traded down to get Weddle & traded up to get Harris.

Okay, I understand your thinking now. Bradley has been my #1 ILB target for some time, my friends the Willis brothers and I have had so much fun discussing #1.

 

[nickw308810]

I think with all of our FA aquisitions there are 2 positions on the Patriots that could still use upgrades: LB and DB. With this defense heavy draft these issues are addressed for the short and long term. If we are unable to move picks into next year we can draft Jackson and Waters and PUP them and have them for next season. Also got a developmental QB and NT prospect.
24 Revis/Houston
28 Meriweather
91 Stewart Bradley
127 Piscitelli/Wendling
171 DeAndre Jackson
180 Anthony Waters
202 Usama Young
208 Jordan Palmer
209 Prescott Burgess
247 Quentin Echols

 

[danny88]

Oh, what the heck:

#24 Darrelle Revis CB

#28 Trade to Tampa for #64 and 2nd and fourth rounders in 2008

#64 David Harris ILB

#91 Antonio Johnson DE/DT

#105 Sabby Piscatelli SS

#171 Anthony Waters ILB

#180 Jeff Rowe QB

#202 CJ Wilson FS

#208 Quentin Echols NT

#209 Kyle Caldwell OLB

#247 Reggie Merriweather RB


Maybe something like that. Give players a chance to knock off the low guys on the totem pole that is the 53-man roster. Waters and Caldwell can be PUPed.

Yikes

 

[dryheat44]

Yikes

I know, I know...if they aren't players you've seen on SportsCenter, you don't care for them.

 

[SamBamsFan]

I think with all of our FA aquisitions there are 2 positions on the Patriots that could still use upgrades: LB and DB. With this defense heavy draft these issues are addressed for the short and long term. If we are unable to move picks into next year we can draft Jackson and Waters and PUP them and have them for next season. Also got a developmental QB and NT prospect.
24 Revis/Houston
28 Meriweather
91 Stewart Bradley
127 Piscitelli/Wendling
171 DeAndre Jackson
180 Anthony Waters
202 Usama Young
208 Jordan Palmer
209 Prescott Burgess
247 Quentin Echols

Another true believer on the board! Just when I thought the adopt-a-prospects had gone the way of the Looney bird (sorry another thread).