Dennard Sentenced to 30 days + 100 hours Community Service

[PATSNUTme]

Probably the best result that we could have hoped for considering the alternatives.

He probably already lost $1million + dropping 2nd/high 3rd rounder to 7th in last years draft, so he's not getting off easy.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Dennard Sentence

His name is Terrell Pryor - He was suspended by Goodell for five games for violations of NCAA policy (from before he was drafted)

The NFL has already stated they will review the Dennard conviction and reserves the right to take disciplinary action against him under their interpretation of their own NFL conduct policy, which was upheld in their 5 game suspension of Pryor.

NFL will review Dennard conviction under conduct policy | ProFootballTalk

Personally I don't think Goodell has a leg to stand on in Dennard's case but Goodell doesn't tend to care what players or fans think

I doubt Goodell wants to get his ass kicked in court/arbitration again.

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Dennard Sentence

His name is Terrell Pryor - He was suspended by Goodell for five games for violations of NCAA policy (from before he was drafted)

As I'm sure you know that's not an appropriate precedent because Pryor was going to be suspended in college and declared for the NFL to avoid that so his NFL suspension was largely a continuance from an upcoming college suspension.

 

[Patjew]

30 days is not bad at all, and you can consider that 100 hours of community service is almost already worked into his Patriots contract. Im glad the Pats have him, but it sucks that he punched a cop.

I saw a cop today that I wanted to punch.

 

[resdubwhite]

Boy, some of you who are saying he got too much are really F'd up.

He hit a cop, plain and simple.

I don't care if he plays on my team. He got about as light as he could have gotten. Anyone who says different needs to step back and evaluate their priorities.

I'm happy it was light but you don't hit a cop.

in isolation you are correct. But this case isn't in isolation. He hit someone out of uniform that grabbed him that accused him of hitting someone he was found not guilty of. If some oaf grabbed me from behind without properly identifying himself he'd be eating my fist too.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I saw a cop today that I wanted to punch.

That buzzing sound you hear...it's a Homeland Security drone homing in

 

[Uncle Rico]

I saw a cop today that I wanted to punch.

Was he texting while "working" a traffic detail? I love when they do that.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: Dennard Sentence

As I'm sure you know that's not an appropriate precedent because Pryor was going to be suspended in college and declared for the NFL to avoid that so his NFL suspension was largely a continuance from an upcoming college suspension.

You don't have to convince me - you have to convince Goodell.

They've already stated that they will review his felony conviction - so any argument that the NFL has no standing to further discipline is already out the window.

I see a strong distinction between Pryor and Dennard - but all Goodell would really have to do is state that in cases involving a felony prior to the draft, the NFL can invoke their own penalties outside of the criminal justice system, and avoid any comparisons with Pryor period (though the precedent HAS been set that Goodell can consider pre-draft incidences.

Any attempt to cite the Ellis case as a comparable example would be rejected since that was a misdemeanor.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

As a Criminal Justice major and currently applying to police departments in CT, I can tell you that Dennard is getting off easy for this which is a good thing for us.

Under Nebraska law, a Class IIIA felony is maximum 5 years imprisonment, or 10k fine or both.

Nebraska Legislature

If I were Dennard, I would just do the time now to get it over with so he doesn't worry about serving the time after the season.

He probably wont spend the full 27 days in prison due to overcrowding and good behavior. I hope he learned his lesson.
Class IIIA felony Maximum — five years imprisonment, or ten thousand dollars fine, or both

 

[jmt57]

As a Criminal Justice major and currently applying to police departments in CT, I can tell you that Dennard is getting off easy for this which is a good thing for us.

Under Nebraska law, a Class IIIA felony is maximum 5 years imprisonment, or 10k fine or both.

Nebraska Legislature

If I were Dennard, I would just do the time now to get it over with so he doesn't worry about serving the time after the season.

He probably wont spend the full 27 days in prison due to overcrowding and good behavior. I hope he learned his lesson.
Class IIIA felony Maximum — five years imprisonment, or ten thousand dollars fine, or both

Maximum sentence and what a first time offender typically receives are vastly different. This is true regardless of almost any offense, in almost any jurisdiction - and that's before going into the specifics of this case that have already been discussed.

 

[FCB02062]

Re: Dennard Sentence

27 days to hit the weight room (in house) and be a model citizen. Pats dodged a bullet and end up with a very good player for very little draft capital. But you won't hear about him in any threads moaning about how the Pats suck at finding secondary help.

Lets not put him in Canton yet - guy played 10 games. I wouldn't say Dennard revises the Pats poor record of drafting/signing corners and safeties the last four or five seasons...

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Dennard Sentence

You don't have to convince me - you have to convince Goodell.

They've already stated that they will review his felony conviction - so any argument that the NFL has no standing to further discipline is already out the window.

I see a strong distinction between Pryor and Dennard - but all Goodell would really have to do is state that in cases involving a felony prior to the draft, the NFL can invoke their own penalties outside of the criminal justice system, and avoid any comparisons with Pryor period (though the precedent HAS been set that Goodell can consider pre-draft incidences.

Any attempt to cite the Ellis case as a comparable example would be rejected since that was a misdemeanor.

The highlighted portion of your post is absolutely untrue, and you should realize that given what happened with the Saints situation and the smackdown Goodell received on multiple fronts in that one.

 

[patfanken]

The Tyrelle Pryor case is entirely different than the Dennard Case. Pryor was suspended by the NCAA for 5 games for his problems at OSU. If Goodell hadn't suspended him, he would be setting a precedent for future players to avoid punishment for their actions by simply escaping to the NFL. He had to act to defend the NFL's free farm system. It was the ONLY reason he acted and they could justify it as carrying out the legal suspension of the NCAA. The NFL needs to keep their relationship with the NCAA

A more suitable comparison is the Ellis case, where Ellis almost beat a man to death with a baseball bat, yet after serving 3 months of a 6 month sentence, he ended up missing only a few days of Jets TC. And then after "careful" scrutiny from the league, it was decided that no suspension was warranted. BTW- it was the correct decision.

So while the league office can huff and puff all it wants there IS no legal justification or precedent to suspend Dennard None whatsoever. And if he did, Dennard would have 100 lawyers lining up for a big payday.

As to the rest of the sentence, I for one thought it was harsh until it was pointed out that he isn't due to start until NEXT March. Now it makes more sense. I would doubt very much if he serves a day as long as he completes the community service hours (which should be easy between here and Lincoln) as long as he keeps his nose clean. Even if he did have to serve any time 2 weeks would be the longest he'd likely serve.

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

As a Criminal Justice major and currently applying to police departments in CT, I can tell you that Dennard is getting off easy for this which is a good thing for us.

Under Nebraska law, a Class IIIA felony is maximum 5 years imprisonment, or 10k fine or both.

Nebraska Legislature

If I were Dennard, I would just do the time now to get it over with so he doesn't worry about serving the time after the season.

He probably wont spend the full 27 days in prison due to overcrowding and good behavior. I hope he learned his lesson.
Class IIIA felony Maximum — five years imprisonment, or ten thousand dollars fine, or both

Cause and effect... Seriously he's serving 30 days and is now a felon based purely on police testimony. You'd think if things unfolded like the police said there would've been physical evidence and some other witnesses. The idea that his punishment is light for the crime is insane.

 

[belichick010405]

"Dougherty said NFL officials have told him that the league will not discipline Dennard, whose arrest came the week before the draft. However, an NFL spokesman told ESPNBoston.com that, as per standard procedure, Dennard's case would be reviewed for potential discipline from the league."

And once again - Deus is wrong.

Alfonzo Dennard of New England Patriots gets 30 days in jail in 2014 - ESPN Boston

 

[Deus Irae]

"Dougherty said NFL officials have told him that the league will not discipline Dennard, whose arrest came the week before the draft. However, an NFL spokesman told ESPNBoston.com that, as per standard procedure, Dennard's case would be reviewed for potential discipline from the league."

And once again - Deus is wrong.

Alfonzo Dennard of New England Patriots gets 30 days in jail in 2014 - ESPN Boston

Umm..... Your quote backs my position.

 

[belichick010405]

Umm..... The article backs my position, and your quote clearly backs my position.

Wrong - they have standing to review. You need to learn how to read Mr. Entitled One.

 

[Deus Irae]

Wrong - they have standing to review. You need to learn how to read Mr. Entitled One.

Take your own advice. Note that the article doesn't say that the league has standing, despite your claim. It says that they'll investigate the case, which is not the same thing. Also, here's the take from PFT, from back in February:

If the league disciplines Dennard, look for him and the union to challenge it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/20/nfl-will-review-dennard-conviction-under-conduct-policy/

 

[belichick010405]

Take your own advice.

Read the story and read the quote. It is clear that they have standing to review in order to determine disciplinary action. You clearly stated that they don't.

Next.

 

[Deus Irae]

Read the story and read the quote. It is clear that they have standing to review in order to determine disciplinary action. You clearly stated that they don't.

Next.

I read the story. You, apparently, don't understand the difference between investigating and punishing.