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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.However -- how did he get home from the club earlier that night?
I didn't ever say what happened wasn't horrific. If you've had a relative or friend who died at the hands of a drunk driver (I've had both) I understand your angst at what I posted. If not my guess is you're just being a jerk-off which wouldn't qualify as time #1.I don't know what your intent was, because I have no clue what being bilingual does to mitigate killing someone.
If you really want to pretend what he did isn't horrific because he is on your favorite team, that is up to you, but trying to rationalize it with silly things like that is kind of insulting.
You should really familiarize yourself with the details of the story.
I love this - how did that work out for him?
Some people get a reputation unfairly attached. This sure doesn't appear to be the case with Winslow. Here we have a guy with a ton of baggage in regards to being unprofessional and more trouble than they're worth. Approaching age 30 and, likely, passing their career peak, he is given an opportunity to play with arguably the best organization in the league. The opportunity includes playing for a coach with a league wide reputation of 'if you can play for him, you can be a professional, team player'. So what does he do? Asks to leave after 1 game.
And the search for intelligent life continues....
Kind of reminds you a little bit of Adalius Thomas. Guys whose skills have eroded to that extent can't afforded to be a-holes. Neither one landed an NFL job after BB let them go. Even Rex Ryan didn't give AD a shot.
I don't know what your intent was, because I have no clue what being bilingual does to mitigate killing someone.
If you really want to pretend what he did isn't horrific because he is on your favorite team, that is up to you, but trying to rationalize it with silly things like that is kind of insulting.
ThatllMoveTheChains!!! said:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
OK, feel free to think the unnecessary loss of a mans life isn't horrific because you have driven drunk and therefore see it as a 'tragic accident'.
I choose to look at it from the standpoint of the innocent man who lost is life rather than from the standpoint of the rationalization of the person who didn't care enough about the lives he was putting in danger to make the inconvenient choice.
I certainly hope you have reached the maturity level where you don't excuse driving drunk as a necessary evil because you choose to party, because you may well end up in the same boat as Stallworth.
For some reason I'm not finding it all that surprising that you think I need your permission to think. I also find it completely predictable that you opted to jump to a bunch of conclusions and then started using ad hominem.
You're looking at this from your viewpoint and no one else's. Considering that the family has forgiven Stallworth I'd say your viewpoint is pretty distorted. I bet they're just fellow drunk drivers too...
AndyJohnson said:Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatllMoveTheChains!!!
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
OK, feel free to think the unnecessary loss of a mans life isn't horrific because you have driven drunk and therefore see it as a 'tragic accident'.
I choose to look at it from the standpoint of the innocent man who lost is life rather than from the standpoint of the rationalization of the person who didn't care enough about the lives he was putting in danger to make the inconvenient choice.
I certainly hope you have reached the maturity level where you don't excuse driving drunk as a necessary evil because you choose to party, because you may well end up in the same boat as Stallworth.
For some reason I'm not finding it all that surprising that you think I need your permission to think. I also find it completely predictable that you opted to jump to a bunch of conclusions and then started using ad hominem.
You're looking at this from your viewpoint and no one else's. Considering that the family has forgiven Stallworth I'd say your viewpoint is pretty distorted. I bet they're just fellow drunk drivers too...
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Jackson 2 said:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
I don't know what your intent was, because I have no clue what being bilingual does to mitigate killing someone.
If you really want to pretend what he did isn't horrific because he is on your favorite team, that is up to you, but trying to rationalize it with silly things like that is kind of insulting.
I didn't ever say what happened wasn't horrific. If you've had a relative or friend who died at the hands of a drunk driver (I've had both) I understand your angst at what I posted. If not my guess is you're just being a jerk-off which wouldn't qualify as time #1.
That's jerk-off, not jerk. Either way, you should be justifiably proud.A man died, you used being bilingual as factor in excusing the man responsible, because he's on the patriots. I find that pathetic. If that makes me a jerk i'm proud to be one.
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Everyone knows you shouldn't drink and drive. Its dangerous to yourself and the general public.
He ended someones life because he was too stupid to call a cab. He'd rather drive around intoxicated in an overpriced luxury car while drunk....
Yeah. GREAT PERSON!!!!!
Don't get me wrong. I don't care what players do off the field. But don't come here saying Stallworth is a great person. He could very well be in jail right now.
Stallworth took responsibility for it all, even though there was evidence that likely would have exonerated him in a trial; his lawyers and his mother tried, over and over, to convince him to go that route. But he wouldn’t listen.
He felt he had caused the Reyes family enough pain, so he accepted a plea deal that led to him spending almost a month in jail, the lifetime revocation of his driver’s license, and eight years of probation. He also came to a confidential financial settlement with the family.
It wasn’t about him. First and foremost, he was concerned about Reyes’s daughter.
The family reached out to thank Stallworth for the way he handled things from the moment the accident happened, and they have forgiven him.
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Definitely tests the inner fan conflict. We all would love to have a great team full of great people, but that's not alwasy the reality. You'll get players like Stallworth where the two will conflict. It's amazing how most often fan allegiance tilts more towards the laundry than the character of the person. After all, if Stallworth never played for the Pats but instead the Jets he'd be almost unanimously considered a scumbag by the members of this board.