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So were Finnegan and Carr undrafted?
Carr was a 5th rounder and Finnegan was a 7th.
Everyone knows that the draft is a crapshoot.
Starting to think that McCourty needs to stay at FS.
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Yeah, why bother even giving the FO some credit after that performance from Gronk yesterday. We should bash them for not fixing this secondary and why we are only 5-3
So were Finnegan and Carr undrafted?
They were late rounders, but you obviously can't count on 4th-7th rounders to fix a position (although Dennard has been a great surprise) My point was the pats clearly suck at drafting CBs, so the only real way to fix it will be the FA route.
They do a pretty good job with DBs overall in my opinion.
Few things are more obvious than how smart wrapping up Kong & Aaron the Navigator was.
It need hardly be "explained."
Yeah, why bother even giving the FO some credit after that performance from Gronk yesterday. We should bash them for not fixing this secondary and why we are only 5-3
Criticising OTG for being a Front Office basher is well wide of the mark, he's probably the biggest homer on this site. For example, he predicted we'll win every game for the next five years or something.
Evaluating Cb is probably imo the toughest positions by far. For the simple draft couch expert in this forum you see a lot of guys hit it out of the park when evaluating dline and oline as well as lb and wr.
I think the Patriots will eventually get it. It wasn't too long ago that people were saying Bill doesn't know how to draft LB's and now we have a 3 outstanding trio going. Pass rusher? In comes Chandler Jones. Maybe he'll get another one but I think people are warming up to Ninkovich(2009 free agent) and Jermaine Cunningham.
A lot of people were po'd about BB drafting TE's and low and behold now we have 2 of the studliest ones around. And 6 more just to be sure? Rbs? I think everyone is happy with the way that has turned out.
I believe Bill will fix this secondary and I don't think it will be long. He's struck out but he is gonna keep trying until he finds his gems. Whether that is through free agency or the draft that remains to be seen. I don't think he going to land a finnegan or revis for top dollar cuz that will destroy the financial structure of the team. But I do believe he may pull something out of his hat by getting a fading capable star that wants to play for a championship where it won't be for just the money.
Give it time, BB has always proved the doubters wrong and this will be no different.
It's still early but it looks like a solid offseason.
The team's main concern was the secondary, and it still remains to be seen if Dennard and one of Wilson/Gregory can become reliable options at their positions. If that happens, the secondary may still need work but at least it's considerable progress. The issues we had would have been very difficult to patch up in one offseason, but if we scored 2 guys that can play starter snaps at a reasonable level it's a success.
It looks like Lloyd is going to help this offense alot and fills a need.
Jones/Hightower are meeting or exceeding expectations thus far.
If Ninko and Cunningham continues their play of recent weeks it'll lessen the blow of the Fanene/Scott failures. Even moreso if Bequette can contribute anything.
The only position that the Pats clearly suck at drafting is WR.
They do a pretty good job with DBs overall in my opinion.
Really you think the pats are good at drafting DB's. ARE you Serious? I almost spit my drink out when i read that. Give me the names, i'll spot you mccourty and asante samual. Dennard its early yet, i want to see more. Wait, do mean in the Fairbanks era Haynes and claiborn? or the Parcells era Law and Malloy.The only position that the Pats clearly suck at drafting is WR.
They do a pretty good job with DBs overall in my opinion.
I give the FO an A-, the problem is they have to face reality regarding the CB position:
1) If you want a top 20 CB that can actually cover, you're going to have to overpay. Brandon Carr and Cortland Finnegan for example, would be helping this team big time right now, but they were too expensive.
2.) Stop drafting these shoulda coulda woulda 2nd round CBs. Butler played at UConn but he must be nasty, Wheatley was injury prone in college but he must be nasty, ditto Dowling.
I just never see the CB situation fixed if they dont dish out money.
Really you think the pats are good at drafting DB's. ARE you Serious? I almost spit my drink out when i read that. Give me the names, i'll spot you mccourty and asante samual. Dennard its early yet, i want to see more.
4. The number of FA signees who have actually had an impact.
DFells - no
M Hoo hoo - no
VShianco - no
Bobby Carpenter - no
Ballard - no
M Cole - No (but on the rise)
They don't know how to coach them up very well then.
The only position that the Pats clearly suck at drafting is WR.
They do a pretty good job with DBs overall in my opinion.