5,235 yards

[bondjames.]

On the topic of calvin johnson... is it just me, or does he look like tyson beckford?

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Even though the 2010 TD:INT ratio was incredible, you could argue this year being better than last. Statistically the worst pass defense in league history, according to Cris Carter [lol] the worst defense overall in league history, and the Pats are a #1 seed. To me this season all but seals the Brady-Manning debate, Brady has more rings AND he's single handedly put this team in contention for a few years now, which was probably the lone 'point' Manning backers held onto the middle of last decade.

 

[Lampshade]

1 more ring moves Brady past Montana IMO. Montana played with HoF's. Brady wins with journeymen.

Brady had a number of years throwing to journeymen, but you certainly can't say Moss, Welker, Gronk, Hernandez are journeymen.

 

[RodThePat]

I know, if he could have only had the WR who lead the league in catches and yards. Wait, um, uh?????????????
Strike that. If he could have had the TE that had the most receiving yards ever by a TE. Oh, hold on..

I'm sure Welker leading the league in catches and Gronk leading all TE's in yards or TD's is a product of their talent alone, it has nothing to do with Brady.

If you don't think this offense is in dire need of talent at the wide receiver position (key word here being 'wide'), you aren't watching the games. What do the Saints and Packers have in common? Both offenses are filled with players who can stretch the field and threaten from the outside, being capable to beat press-man coverage. The Patriots don't have a single guy like that, and it might end up hurting them just like it did in last year's Jets game.

 

[patchick]

Calvin Johnson, now that is a legit #1 wr. Wes is a bamf, but I'd rather my #1 wr catch deep balls rather than slants and in routes

OK, so you'd rather have the best wideout in the league than the best slot receiver in the league. Fair enough. But how many wideouts NOT on the fast track for the Hall of Fame would you take over Welker?

New England is the only team in the NFL with 2 of the top 10 receivers in the league, AND the only team with 3 of the top 40 receivers. Sure, I'd welcome a Calvin Johnson with open arms, but there's no question this team has weapons.

 

[PatriotFan77]

Brady had a number of Super Bowl wins throwing to journeymen, but you certainly can't say Moss, Welker, Gronk, Hernandez have Super Bowl rings.

Fixed it.........

 

[LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady]

Good talent, but they're not as gifted and athletic as say... Calvin Johnson, NO WRs and GB WRs. Most of their recievers have height advantage, they're deep threats and are very fast and athletic. I'm not saying Welker, Gronk and Hernandez are scrubs... I think they work harder for their yardage, making them better players IMO. But having recievers like the ones I listed above would make getting yardage stats much more easier for Brady.

I think the ones Brady have now, would work better against tougher Ds. But with the schedules of GB, NO and DET, I think Brady would do wonders with those finesse WRs those teams play with.

 

[Ring 6]

I'm sure Welker leading the league in catches and Gronk leading all TE's in yards or TD's is a product of their talent alone, it has nothing to do with Brady.

If you don't think this offense is in dire need of talent at the wide receiver position (key word here being 'wide'), you aren't watching the games. What do the Saints and Packers have in common? Both offenses are filled with players who can stretch the field and threaten from the outside, being capable to beat press-man coverage. The Patriots don't have a single guy like that, and it might end up hurting them just like it did in last year's Jets game.

For all intents and purposes the Patriots offense is just as good as those 2.
I understand you like seeing it one way, but that does not make it better.
Referencing one game where Brady threw for 299 is a silly argument.
I guess if Brees had Brady's weapons they wouldn't have lost to a 7-9 team in the playoffs last year, so that proves the Saints have WR problems, right?

 

[Ring 6]

I'm sure Welker leading the league in catches and Gronk leading all TE's in yards or TD's is a product of their talent alone, it has nothing to do with Brady.

If you don't think this offense is in dire need of talent at the wide receiver position (key word here being 'wide'), you aren't watching the games. What do the Saints and Packers have in common? Both offenses are filled with players who can stretch the field and threaten from the outside, being capable to beat press-man coverage. The Patriots don't have a single guy like that, and it might end up hurting them just like it did in last year's Jets game.

By the way Brady averages substantially more yard per completion (over 10% higher over an entire season) than Brees, so your point of stretching the field appears incorrect based upon fact.

 

[Its_The_Patriots]

Tom Brady is something special!

 

[PatriotReign]

Even though the 2010 TD:INT ratio was incredible, you could argue this year being better than last. Statistically the worst pass defense in league history, according to Cris Carter [lol] the worst defense overall in league history, and the Pats are a #1 seed. To me this season all but seals the Brady-Manning debate, Brady has more rings AND he's single handedly put this team in contention for a few years now, which was probably the lone 'point' Manning backers held onto the middle of last decade.

Actually we have the number 31 defense. We switched with Green Bay since they gave up 500 yards and 5 td's to Stafford.

 

[Raine247]

OK, so you'd rather have the best wideout in the league than the best slot receiver in the league. Fair enough. But how many wideouts NOT on the fast track for the Hall of Fame would you take over Welker?

New England is the only team in the NFL with 2 of the top 10 receivers in the league, AND the only team with 3 of the top 40 receivers. Sure, I'd welcome a Calvin Johnson with open arms, but there's no question this team has weapons.

You dwell on stats too much.

 

[UK_Pat37]

Great achievement but, like with what I said about Brees, I feel it's sad that two QBs eclipsed Marino's record in one season and kind of shows just how much this league has changed. I would have loved to have seen what Marino could have done in this day and age.

He's been beaten out by arguably one of the best of all time in Brady, in a league which benefits QBs and the passing game more than it ever has, and by a dome QB who played 3 of his away games (so 11 total when you include his home games) under a roof.

I wouldn't say it's a sad day to see it broken, but I would bring into question how much of an achievement it should be considered now compared to then. Not as much so in my eyes.Still a great one for both QBs however.

 

[italia44]

You dwell on stats too much.

No she doesn't:nono:.....YOU dwell on Madden,too much:bricks:

 

[Raine247]

No she doesn't:nono:.....YOU dwell on Madden,too much:bricks:

If I dwelled on Madden too much like you say, I would love stats.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

Congrats TB, BEST EVER!

 

[patchick]

You dwell on stats too much.

:confused2:

The Patriots averaged 32 points a game and put up huge passing numbers. Stats & eyes both tell me Brady has some potent weapons.

Sure, I'd love to add an all-world wideout, who wouldn't? But that doesn't mean the offense is crippled by the lack of one.

 

[Raine247]

:confused2:

The Patriots averaged 32 points a game and put up huge passing numbers. Stats & eyes both tell me Brady has some potent weapons.

Sure, I'd love to add an all-world wideout, who wouldn't? But that doesn't mean the offense is crippled by the lack of one.

Didn't say the offense was "crippled." I said they could use a true #1 wr

 

[DarrylS]

Usually use all my energy solely on the Pats, watched some of the other games today... amazing how Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Stafford and Ryan are heads and shoulders above the rest... Orton, Tebow, Tavaris Jackson, Skelton, Palmer all are unreasonable facsimiles thereof...

We are really luck to have a great QB and a team who knows how to use him..

 

[weswelker#83]