Pats place C Dan Koppen on IR

[ausbacker]

All I remember is "young balls vs old balls". Evidently, we have neither.

 

[TheSolderKing]

All I remember is "young balls vs old balls". Evidently, we have neither.

Now we have more GRONK balls who woulda thunk it?

 

[mgteich]

I am confused.

We had one of the very best OL's in football in 2010 and so far this year. Connolly is playing very well at center. Wendell is the same backup as last year. He also backs up guard as he did last year.

We have Waters at RG, an upgrade at RG from last year.

I am pretty worried about our Offensive line. I think we need a center stat!

 

[SoonerPatriot]

I look forward to seeing which starter we lose this week to injuries.

So far we've had to monster losses between Koppen (IR) and Hernandez (will probably be gone for a lot longer than 1-2 weeks). Even our punter is nicked up.

Clearly it's going be one of those years on the injury front. Maybe an all timer at this rate.

Who will it be this week? I'm guessing Bodden or another OL.

 

[Deus Irae]

plz quote the many nice things I said about Crump and his worth(bahaha). It is hard to predict a Rookies impact. For most of you guys Keeping Crump was a very easy decision b/c he was a "VETERAN" and "Locker Room Leader"

clearly the Crump side is more wrong... I at least predicted him being CUT



End of the day Crump was RELEASED and Smith was claimed off of our PS.


Crump gone 100% right by me.
Me saying Smith was a Lock was a foolish comment especially in a shortened off-season. Lets evaluate the scenario... Who LEFT this Team 1st via Release?

who left the squad 1st?

I was wrong about Light... we were LUCKY this was a short off season or he would surely be GONE

You had both as locks. You were wrong about both. Now you want props just because you were hedging your bets?

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

I wonder if Koppen means Cannon is progressing.

Hopefully, this is indirect good news per Dowling

I completely forgot about Cannon! I wonder how he is doing, he could be a big shot in the arm come week 6 (or so), exactly what the Pats need another guard.

I wonder what Stephan Neal is doing right now...............

 

[Bertil]

It is some consolation to have Cannon...not to mention Brace and Deaderick...in the wings come week six to alleviate some of these injury concerns.

 

[NinjaZX6R]

I completely forgot about Cannon! I wonder how he is doing, he could be a big shot in the arm come week 6 (or so), exactly what the Pats need another guard.

I wonder what Stephan Neal is doing right now...............

I rather not. Neal has said that he is one shoulder surgery from not moving his shoulders ever again. I'll pass.

 

[Gumby]

plz quote the many nice things I said about Crump and his worth(bahaha). It is hard to predict a Rookies impact. For most of you guys Keeping Crump was a very easy decision b/c he was a "VETERAN" and "Locker Room Leader"

clearly the Crump side is more wrong... I at least predicted him being CUT



End of the day Crump was RELEASED and Smith was claimed off of our PS.


Crump gone 100% right by me.
Me saying Smith was a Lock was a foolish comment especially in a shortened off-season. Lets evaluate the scenario... Who LEFT this Team 1st via Release?

who left the squad 1st?

I was wrong about Light... we were LUCKY this was a short off season or he would surely be GONE

jeeeeeezzzz, Solder give it up already.

who is that guy with the sig: 'when you win say nothing, when you lose say less'

Go back to your room and think about the applicability of that to posting for a while before you keep at this pointless, self-aggrandizing diversion from the thread topic.

 

[The Scrizz]

I rather not. Neal has said that he is one shoulder surgery from not moving his shoulders ever again. I'll pass.

I bet he'd pass too if that's the case.

 

[Gumby]

Re: Koppen to IR

And they replaced him with . . . a CB.

Adams bolsters banged-up DB corps - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

I strongly suspect this was done to prevent certain other teams from raiding the cupboard. (NY G or ?)

If we need another OL or P; I wonder what we would do to create space if we are already having to protect our PS guys.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I rather not. Neal has said that he is one shoulder surgery from not moving his shoulders ever again. I'll pass.

Yah, I wonder if Ed Sullivan ever played in the NFL

 

[mgteich]

Re: Koppen to IR

1) We don't need another OL on the 53 man roster. Solder and Wendell are fine backups. And we do have one developmental backup: Thomas. We also have Welch, Kopa and McDonald on the Practice Squad. Finally, we have Cannon on PUP.

2) We might need another punter for awhile. Any of the following 4 players who MIGHT be waived if we need a roster spot.

WRIGHT
Is he really still on the 53?

ONE OF THE BACKUP DEFENSIVE BACKS
We have ADAMS, IHEDIGBO and MOLDEN on the roster.

I strongly suspect this was done to prevent certain other teams from raiding the cupboard. (NY G or ?)

If we need another OL or P; I wonder what we would do to create space if we are already having to protect our PS guys.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Connolly has stepped up his play again. Not happy to see Koppen go to IR, but I think we're getting a comparable guy. Connolly is exactly what Dante's school is known for - producing capable backup players that can step in when there's an injury and allowing the OL not to skip a beat.

 

[ralmat55]

Aside from the previous responses about the Pats not being able to afford to use up that roster spot due to all the injuries at other positions that required replacements, it is also possible that Belichick considered the Taylor situation and learned from his mistake - that it made more sense to use that roster spot on a player that can contribute now rather than rolling the dice on an injured player maybe/maybe not being productive several weeks from now.



As for the in-season disabled list debate, the way I see it the league already has one: it is the seven roster spots known as inactive on game day.

As the Koppen situation illustrates, the 7-man inactive list is not a good substitute for more flexible roster rules. The truth is that some NFL teams have a hard time some weeks finding 46 healthy players out of the 53 on the roster. Then, when you throw in the impact of having multiple injuries at one particular position group, it gets even worse. That's what happened to the Patriots. 1/3 of the secondary has casts on their hands. One player has a concussion and another has a hip injury. 5 out of 9 dbs are hurting and you simply can't play with only 4 dbs. Hey, the nitwits who run baseball came up with a 7 day DL for players suffering from concussions. I just don't see why the league is reluctant to go to an in-season IR.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Koppen to IR

1) We don't need another OL on the 53 man roster. Solder and Wendell are fine backups. And we do have one developmental backup: Thomas. We also have Welch, Kopa and McDonald on the Practice Squad. Finally, we have Cannon on PUP.

2) We might need another punter for awhile. Any of the following 4 players who MIGHT be waived if we need a roster spot.

WRIGHT
Is he really still on the 53?

ONE OF THE BACKUP DEFENSIVE BACKS
We have ADAMS, IHEDIGBO and MOLDEN on the roster.

When did Wendell transform into a "fine backup"?

 

[Clonamery]

Re: Koppen to IR

When did Wendell transform into a "fine backup"?

Fine=adequate in Webster's latest Dictionary. Evidently.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Koppen to IR

I understand that many expect all-pro's as their backups, or potential all-pro's like Solder. This is not always possible.

Wendell has started and looked OK when he did. He is in the mold of Ruegamer and Hochstein. Sure, I'd love to have another Waters at C/G. Wendell is up to the job at hand. Call him "fine" "adequate" or "JAG". It's all the same. Plug him in when needed. He'll do his job.

To be clear, I was one calling for the acquisition of a veteran C/OG as an upgrade over Wendell. But Wendell is certainly adequate for the job.

When did Wendell transform into a "fine backup"?

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Koppen to IR

I understand that many expect all-pro's as their backups, or potential all-pro's like Solder. This is not always possible.

Wendell has started and looked OK when he did. He is in the mold of Ruegamer and Hochstein. Sure, I'd love to have another Waters at C/G. Wendell is up to the job at hand. Call him "fine" "adequate" or "JAG". It's all the same. Plug him in when needed. He'll do his job.

To be clear, I was one calling for the acquisition of a veteran C/OG as an upgrade over Wendell. But Wendell is certainly adequate for the job.

Wendell has certainly not looked adequate for the job. All-Pro isn't necessary, but capable would be a nice start.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Koppen to IR

As I recall that as little as two weeks ago, you didn't see Connolly as capable either.

Wendell has certainly not looked adequate for the job. All-Pro isn't necessary, but capable would be a nice start.