Winning 14+ Games

[Oswlek]

I'm glad I don't share the viewpoint expressed by some in this thread. What the hell good is it to be a fan when you've got about a 95% chance of feeling like you wasted your entire fall and winter?

I was as disappointed as the next guy that NE spit the bit against the Jets. But they were still a damn good team and I enjoyed watching them develop and mature.

 

[Oswlek]

Oh, and that team was every bit a 14-2 squad. It seems one game has made people forget that NE was absolutely obliterating teams down the stretch, including wins over all 4 championship teams, three of them being complete demolitions.

Does anyone remember the final Titan offensive play in the AFC Divisional round in 2003? McNair lofted a purposeful underthrow to Bennett, who stopped on a dime and came back for it. Poole was in coverage and slipped, leaving Drew completely uncovered as the ball came down.

But NE got bailed out when Bennett bobbled the ball a few times and gave the safeties just enough time to break up the play. That team was an arse hair away from being the early version of 2010.

More luck goes into a single elimination game than fans like to admit.

 

[NEGoldenAge]

I'm glad I don't share the viewpoint expressed by some in this thread. What the hell good is it to be a fan when you've got about a 95% chance of feeling like you wasted your entire fall and winter?

I was as disappointed as the next guy that NE spit the bit against the Jets. But they were still a damn good team and I enjoyed watching them develop and mature.

I agree. I'm very fond of the 2010 team and really enjoyed watching those young players mature and grow. BB has created an amazing foundation for future success.... not just in terms of talent, but in the locker room as well. Oh yeah, they also have 46 players signed (most in the league) for a very low salary, a pluthera of quality drafties and an extra 1st and 2nd in 2012. People should enjoy witnessing the birth of a new Dynasty instead of lamenting a single loss and BB passing on their binkies.

 

[supafly]

I'm glad I don't share the viewpoint expressed by some in this thread. What the hell good is it to be a fan when you've got about a 95% chance of feeling like you wasted your entire fall and winter?

I was as disappointed as the next guy that NE spit the bit against the Jets. But they were still a damn good team and I enjoyed watching them develop and mature.

I couldn't agree more. Just think of how many Sunday afternoon were spent enjoying football to the fullest.

Just b/c you don't win the SB does not make it anything less of a year. Only one team out of 32 wins the SB, that does not necessarily make the other 31 'losers.' A 14-2 record + overcoming tons of adversity and obstacles = a major sign to the rest of the NFL that we are not going away any time soon.

I also agree with the good luck and good bounces of the ball theory, as that was a terrific stretch of great fortune that HAD to be coming to an end at some point. It is just the law of averages.

And who knows? Had we not lost the past few yrs in the playoffs, maybe things don't fall exactly in the same way, which seems to be setting up yet another run at continued success. Maybe the team would've squeaked by again only to have a major decline in talent that would have left them in the cellar for 10 yrs to come. I hate to even say it b/c I almost make myself sick sounding like such an optimist, but "everything happens for a reason."

Bottom line is that many of us are enjoying something that is pretty rare, while many others continue to b!tch and whine just b/c their team fails to win the SB every year.

 

[LuthierJr]

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Bottom line is that many of us are enjoying something that is pretty rare, while many others continue to b!tch and whine just b/c their team fails to win the sb every year.

qft........

 

[TruthSeeker]

Guess which team has the better record in the last 100 years in the regular season Yanks or Sox?? Most would take a look at the number of Championship trophies and say obviously it HAS TO BE the Yanks right? WRONG!! The Sox came in second place for soooo long that they have a better record, whats that worth?? NOTHING.

Well, the rivalry is 110 years old and the Yankees lead with a 1,125 - 940 - 14 record. Since "The Red Sox were one of the most successful teams in baseball from 1901 to 1918", I doubt that the Yankees were growing their 185 game lead during that timeframe.

Yankees

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

I'm glad I don't share the viewpoint expressed by some in this thread. What the hell good is it to be a fan when you've got about a 95% chance of feeling like you wasted your entire fall and winter?

Precisely 96.875%

 

[PatsFan37]

Don't know about some of these posters, but I spent last fall watching one of the best QBs in the history of the game having one of his best years while his team was directed by the best coach in the history of the game who was having his best year.

Imagine the waste had I not followed this team and soaked up every game.

 

[ausbacker]

Don't know about some of these posters, but I spent last fall watching one of the best QBs in the history of the game having one of his best years while his team was directed by the best coach in the history of the game who was having his best year.

Imagine the waste had I not followed this team and soaked up every game.

Indeed. Color me strange but it's nice to have a genuine rival within the division. Sure it's nice to beat the Colts and Steelers but there's nothing quite like divisional rivalries.

2010 was a magnificent year for me because of McCourty, Gronkowski, Hernandez and Mayo taking his game to another level.

 

[Deus Irae]

Don't know about some of these posters, but I spent last fall watching one of the best QBs in the history of the game having one of his best years while his team was directed by the best coach in the history of the game who was having his best year.

Imagine the waste had I not followed this team and soaked up every game.

Unless you're going to argue that you'd prefer 14-2 and one-and-done in the playoffs to 8-8 and Super Bowl champs, you don't really have much of a point.

Your comment is the sort of thing Patriots fans used to laugh at Colts fans for saying. All we need is for you to argue how great it will be to see the division banner hoisted, and it'll be like we're actually in Indiana.

 

[ausbacker]

Unless you're going to argue that you'd prefer 14-2 and one-and-done in the playoffs to 8-8 and Super Bowl champs, you don't really have much of a point.

Your comment is the sort of thing Patriots fans used to laugh at Colts fans for saying. All we need is for you to argue how great it will be to see the division banner hoisted, and it'll be like we're actually in Indiana.

It's perfectly fine to applaud a good season whilst being disappointed at not making/winning the Superbowl Deus.

 

[Deus Irae]

It's perfectly fine to applaud a good season whilst being disappointed at not making/winning the Superbowl Deus.

When you're a crap team for years (Lions for example), your fans will be happy with 8-8. When you're a mediocre and improving team, your fans will be happy with the playoffs. When you're an elite team that's among the favorites to win the title, your fans measure success with playoff wins and championships. The exception to that used to be the Colts, and we used to mock them for it.

Well, Patsfans.com has become almost a carbon copy of those old Colts boards. Just change the team names, and you've got almost the exact same thing happening.

 

[ausbacker]

When you're a crap team for years (Lions for example), your fans will be happy with 8-8. When you're a mediocre and improving team, your fans will be happy with the playoffs. When you're an elite team that's among the favorites to win the title, your fans measure success with playoff wins and championships. The exception to that used to be the Colts, and we used to mock them for it.

Well, Patsfans.com has become a mirror image of those old Colts boards.

I share your sentiment but if you remember correctly 4/5ths of the board was devastated when the Patriots lost to the Jets in the playoffs. That still doesn't detract from the fact that there were some incredible individual performances in spite of the playoff flop.

Draw that distinction and it's a fine position to hold.

 

[Deus Irae]

I share your sentiment but if you remember correctly 4/5ths of the board was devastated when the Patriots lost to the Jets in the playoffs. That still doesn't detract from the fact that there were some incredible individual performances in spite of the playoff flop.

I agree with you 100% on this.

 

[Batman]

Am I happy with 14-2? Yes
Am I pi$$ed about 0-1? Yes

What I have learnt is we are a strong team who are still missing a few pieces, at the start of the season people were predicting 10-6 and to miss the playoff's. We showed them to be wrong. In the playoff's we had to face a team that had built itself to beat us that was the purpose of that team but if we come back with a cap they will struggle to keep it up. 1 year big hit won playoff games lost champ game and not sure who they can keep this season. Is that what you want? A big push for a single year? or to put in many seasons where we win lots and compete most of the time. Chances are if we keep have 14-2 we will win it all at some point.

Two straight playoff exist are bad I'm not a fool I know this but it does not make it a bad year for us. Look at the Vikings and Cowboys two team predicted to do well and compare us to them. Oh my gosh we had an awful season because we made the playoffs and lost in a game where it's win or done. Brady happened to be having an off day first he had in a while.

Do I believe the Pats are ready to go for the playoff's this year? Yes.
Do I believe the Jest are ready for the playoff's this year? Depends on who they can sign and rules after the lockout.

Ask yourself those 2 questions and think about your answers then ask a final question who's fan would you rather be?
I know my answer to that.

 

[townes]

They weren't as good as the 14-2 record, they shouldnt have been so bad as to lose at home after a bye. The playoffs is all that matter.

Really? Then how come they beat every play-off team they played last season?

And it's what you do during the regular season that determines whether or not you even go to the play-offs, so dismissing it as meaningless is foolish.


They played a bad game and lost, we get it, but acting as if they didn't put together a great season against a really tough schedule with a team they were rebuilding is ignoring reality.

 

[randomk1]

Really? Then how come they beat every play-off team they played last season?

And it's what you do during the regular season that determines whether or not you even go to the play-offs, so dismissing it as meaningless is foolish.


They played a bad game and lost, we get it, but acting as if they didn't put together a great season against a really tough schedule with a team they were rebuilding is ignoring reality.

Once you've made the playoffs the record is meaningless imo. The only thing that comes to account is the seeding. Everybody is 0-0 once the playoffs start.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Unless you're going to argue that you'd prefer 14-2 and one-and-done in the playoffs to 8-8 and Super Bowl champs, you don't really have much of a point.

Your comment is the sort of thing Patriots fans used to laugh at Colts fans for saying. All we need is for you to argue how great it will be to see the division banner hoisted, and it'll be like we're actually in Indiana.

Only reason is we were laughing at Indy is they were saying that when they had never won A Lombardi. Or even competed for one. Kinda like Tubby's JETS. At a time when we had been to 4 in 7 and won 3 of them... The lack of perspective exhibited ad nauseum here by a vocal minority who equate criticism with objectivity and believe the only opinion that carries any weight is their's is truly mindboggling. Like some players aren't a fit for the system and schemes here, apparently neither are some fans...because they don't get the beauty or even the essense of it. Sustainable competitiveness in a 32 team, any given Sunday league designed to facilitate parity. Of course that's the same reason many of them don't grasp or appreciate what is currently at stake in litigation...

 

[Oswlek]

I hope the parents among you don't set such impossibly high standards for your children.

You've consistently been High Honors, but you weren't valedictorian every year running! And what the HELL was with getting those three questions wrong on your math exam last April!

 

[Deus Irae]

Only reason is we were laughing at Indy is they were saying that when they had never won A Lombardi. Or even competed for one. Kinda like Tubby's JETS. At a time when we had been to 4 in 7 and won 3 of them... The lack of perspective exhibited ad nauseum here by a vocal minority who equate criticism with objectivity and believe the only opinion that carries any weight is their's is truly mindboggling. Like some players aren't a fit for the system and schemes here, apparently neither are some fans...because they don't get the beauty or even the essense of it. Sustainable competitiveness in a 32 team, any given Sunday league designed to facilitate parity. Of course that's the same reason many of them don't grasp or appreciate what is currently at stake in litigation...

The Patriots haven't won since 2004, and it's the same silly song and dance from the Patriots homer crowd that it was in Indiana. So let's not pretend that it's any different. It's not. Well, it's arguably more pathetic, because the Patriots homers should know better, having seen the Colts homers doing it.