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...Well, it's arguably more pathetic....
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The Patriots haven't won since 2004, and it's the same silly song and dance from the Patriots homer crowd that it was in Indiana. So let's not pretend that it's any different. It's not. Well, it's arguably more pathetic, because the Patriots homers should know better, having seen the Colts homers doing it.
The Patriots haven't won since 2004, and it's the same silly song and dance from the Patriots homer crowd that it was in Indiana. So let's not pretend that it's any different. It's not. Well, it's arguably more pathetic, because the Patriots homers should know better, having seen the Colts homers doing it.
LOL the old same but different retort...and the clever homer taunt. I happen to think what is arguably more pathetic is the inability of some fans to appreciate the journey any more. Apparently being contrarian is the sole remaining source of your fan enjoyment. I know you think that's a mark of your superior intellect. But it's just insufferable ego blowing smoke up your skirt...
So basically it's Superbowl or bust? I know players may feel that way, but we fans get to enjoy the moments.The Patriots haven't won since 2004, and it's the same silly song and dance from the Patriots homer crowd that it was in Indiana. So let's not pretend that it's any different. It's not. Well, it's arguably more pathetic, because the Patriots homers should know better, having seen the Colts homers doing it.
LOL the old same but different retort...and the clever homer taunt. I happen to think what is arguably more pathetic is the inability of some fans to appreciate the journey any more. Apparently being contrarian is the sole remaining source of your fan enjoyment. I know you think that's a mark of your superior intellect. But it's just insufferable ego blowing smoke up your skirt...
So basically it's Superbowl or bust? I know players may feel that way, but we fans get to enjoy the moments.
What you're saying sounds similar to fans who look at a 6-3 ball game and say the entire game was terrible (not enough points scored). Some people might appreciate the defensive dominance performed by each team.
Likewise, we fans live the game 1 week at a time and there's usually ritual and commitment in watching the games. We invest in the moments, all the moments. Does it feel like a kick in the gut when we lose (in the post-season), sure does...doesn't mean we can't appreciate the entire season after the fact. And no, I still don't feel good about having an 18-1 season (in case you were wondering), but having reached 14-2 wit hthe team we had felt good and makes the future look promising.
It's all about perspective and having a sound, rational one. Somewhere between Colt fans and Pats fans lies the truth...
As an example, a fan over on Coltfreaks just knocked himself out doing an analysis of the greatest QB's in the league, past and present. What he decided to base his formula on was subjectively selected stats. He decided among other things to not use rookie stats because Peyton's sucked and would have knocked him off of a couple of his all important comparative listings... He decided to use QB's with less than 50 starts because that (along with a mathmatical error here and there) bumped Brady off of a couple of the lists. He relied heavily on total yards because those are Manning's forte. He used sacks as a criteria because between OL talent and official aversion to calling holding against the Colts OL Manning was untouchable for a while...
He also claims he left off seasons he felt were outliers for players like Favre and Marino and Montana just because he felt like it...
And of course he ignored post season statistics altogether...inclusion of which would have knocked most of the non Manning competition not named Brady off his lists altogether...
Ehhh, as has become your wont, you mistake unthinking obeisance and loyalty for fandom and enjoyment. Just for an example, since you decided to make this personal again, I've been one of those who've defended the 2007 season as a success despite the Super Bowl loss. I was among the few defending Cassel when people were calling for his head. However, because you find my fandom to be not 'pure' enough for your standards, you've spent years making stupid comments about my supposed "contrarianism", and not seeming to understand that sometimes my "contrarianism" was in defense of the team and/or its players and decisions.
Most people understand that you can actually question a team and still be a fan, just as most people understand that goals and expectations change over time. Coaches understand that. Players understand that. Red Sox fans spent the better part of 100 years living it while waiting for a championship. It's just a few people like yourself who can't seem to wrap their minds around that basic notion.
The foremost point is this is a very young team that lost in the playoffs to a veteran team. What this proves is experience matters and there is only one way to get experience. This has been true since a pigskin was first tossed and even the Patriots cannot escape the inevitable laws of reality.
Ehhh, as has become your wont, you mistake unthinking obeisance and loyalty for fandom and enjoyment. Just for an example, since you decided to make this personal again, I've been one of those who've defended the 2007 season as a success despite the Super Bowl loss. I was among the few defending Cassel when people were calling for his head. However, because you find my fandom to be not 'pure' enough for your standards, you've spent years making stupid comments about my supposed "contrarianism", and not seeming to understand that sometimes my "contrarianism" was in defense of the team and/or its players and decisions.
Most people understand that you can actually question a team and still be a fan, just as most people understand that goals and expectations change over time. Coaches understand that. Players understand that. Red Sox fans spent the better part of 100 years living it while waiting for a championship. It's just a few people like yourself who can't seem to wrap their minds around that basic notion.
Most people understand that you can actually question a team and still be a fan, just as most people understand that goals and expectations change over time. Coaches understand that. Players understand that. Red Sox fans spent the better part of 100 years living it while waiting for a championship. It's just a few people like yourself who can't seem to wrap their minds around that basic notion.
Very true. I was going to post something like this, but didn't bother because it won't change anyone's opinion.
People look at NE's one and done in 2009 and then the one and done in 2010 and equate the two, but they really aren't that similar. Same thing with the defensive woes. The Pats were a fading, again team and it showed in their inability to make big stops and step up in the playoffs. The big stops and playoff exit persisted, but the cause was the exact opposite. Instead of being old, NE was plagued by too much inexperience.
2010 wasn't a continuation of 2009 (or 2007 if you want to go further back), it is a complete reversal that happened to end in a similar manner. But there isn't a team in the league that is better equipped for the next 4 years than the Pats.
How many of those teams won the championship? What's the % of winning the SB if you achieve a 14 win season?