Maroney: "The Best Is Yet To Come"

[Patjew]

LoMo is going to run like a beast when he gets his chances this year. I'm looking for a very solid year from the man.

 

[emoney_33]

"The best is yet to come'- LoMo

Great. Talk is cheap, so to quote FM radio stations around the US, "Less talk, More (pounding of the) Rock!"

Dear, Lawrence: Run the damn ball North-South with intensity and conviction, not like you're carrying your aunties hummel collection!

....And HOLD ON to that ball, b*tch!

If you are expecting him to be a North-South runner you will certainly be disappointed.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Here's an "If Only" of my own I would like to add...

"IF ONLY we had drafted Maurice Jones-Drew and Greg Jennings instead of Maroney and Chad Jackson." :bricks:

Ouch. Thanks for pointing that out. Now I need to run out for more beer.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Oh no 6 more carries last year and he would have fallen apart! Thankfully they held him out of the last game, otherwise he'd have evaporated! /sarcasm

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...

I will once again pose the question, why has BB not attempted to find a "lead" runningback for 5 friggin years? I don't know but maybe, just maybe, BB believes that having 2+ solid RBs to split the load is BETTER for this team.

We have 5 years of evidence. Durability and carries. Come on now.

BB has exhibited an ability to maximize the abilities of his players. If he thinks more value can be gained by limiting a player's snaps, he will do so. See Faulk.

If LoMo showed 2004 Corey Dillon or Antoine Smith circa 2001, he'd get his 200+ carries. LoMo is a 170-190 carry guy. It's not a bad thing. It's what he is.

 

[emoney_33]

We have 5 years of evidence. Durability and carries. Come on now.

BB has exhibited an ability to maximize the abilities of his players. If he thinks more value can be gained by limiting a player's snaps, he will do so. See Faulk.

If LoMo showed 2004 Corey Dillon or Antoine Smith circa 2001, he'd get his 200+ carries. LoMo is a 170-190 carry guy. It's not a bad thing. It's what he is.

They haven't even ATTEMPTED to make him carry the "full load" like other teams' RBs. Yet you determine that he can't carry 200 times by the simple fact that he hasn't been asked to. It's also very funny that you say this considering that if the last game of the season meant anything last year he was almost guaranteed to have gotten to that arbitrary magical number of 200.

Your should focus on your last sentence a little more. It IS what it IS, and whether Maroney could consistently carry 200+ times a season is UNKNOWN because he has never really been asked to. He averages 13 carries a game in his career (which has nothing to do with durability) which would make 208 if he played 16 games. That is barely on pace for that 200 mark, and it is NOT a "durability" thing. It's how they CHOOSE to use their RBs.

PS: It's been 4 years not 5

 

[Mogamedogz]

he has been the leading rusher... im not sure with your expectations were but not all late first round picks turn into all pros the pats got lucky with Logan Mankins, Vince Wilfork, and Brandon Meriweather, most late first round picks end up never being more then just backups

My expectations were high. He was graded as a first round talent by the BB/Pioli regime. Why wouldn't they be?? They have had a lot of success with first round selections over the years.

What were your expectations for him after they drafted him? A mediocre, indecisive, injury prone compliment, in an geriatric heavy committee? Come on!!

I will continue to hope he turns it around for as long as he wears the laundry, don't get me wrong. I just think he's been a major disappointment up till this point.

Who knows, maybe he still will turn it around for us. He is in a contract season.

 

[patsinthesnow]

I will once again pose the question, why has BB not attempted to find a "lead" runningback for 5 friggin years? I don't know but maybe, just maybe, BB believes that having 2+ solid RBs to split the load is BETTER for this team.

2011 will be the extreme makeover for the RB core. All 5 of the RBs contracts end. Peace Maroney.

 

[Sciz]

2011 will be the extreme makeover for the RB core. I'm pretty sure all 5 of the RBs contracts end.

BJGE would be an RFA pending a change in the CBA. Of course, I don't think he makes the week 1 roster, so it's kind of irrelevant. But yes, 2011 will probably be to the running backs what 2010 was to the tight ends.

 

[Mogamedogz]

They haven't even ATTEMPTED to make him carry the "full load" like other teams' RBs. Yet you determine that he can't carry 200 times by the simple fact that he hasn't been asked to. It's also very funny that you say this considering that if the last game of the season meant anything last year he was almost guaranteed to have gotten to that arbitrary magical number of 200.

Your should focus on your last sentence a little more. It IS what it IS, and whether Maroney could consistently carry 200+ times a season is UNKNOWN because he has never really been asked to. He averages 13 carries a game in his career (which has nothing to do with durability) which would make 208 if he played 16 games. That is barely on pace for that 200 mark, and it is NOT a "durability" thing. It's how they CHOOSE to use their RBs.

PS: It's been 4 years not 5

The guy had 194 attempts last season... not much different than 200. He didn't come close to 1000yrds. That is not very good production.

In 2007, he had 185 in the most prolific passing offense in the history of the league, and he still only manged a pedestrian 835 (4.5ypc is inflated because the LBS and DBs had to respect the pass and play further off the LOS).

 

[BradyFTW!]

Maroney won't be able to "command" money. He will be signed by a team to be Chester Taylor, Faulk, Bradshaw, etc.

Chester Taylor is plenty capable of commanding money. He's a good RB... kinda like Maroney. That's why he's able to get 3+ million per year, which is pretty good RB money. It's more than Maroney makes right now.

 

[BradyFTW!]

The guy had 194 attempts last season... not much different than 200. He didn't come close to 1000yrds. That is not very good production.

In 2007, running he had 185 in the most prolific passing offense in the history of the league, and he still only manged a pedestrian 835 (4.5ypc is inflated because the LBS and DBs had to respect the pass and play further off the LOS).

The 1,000 yard fixation is an anachronism, and really shouldn't matter so much to people. It's an arbitrary number, and it says nothing. Pierre Thomas didn't get 1,000 yards, is not any good either?

 

[Kdo5]

So I've heard Laurence...so I've heard for several years.

 

[Mogamedogz]

The 1,000 yard fixation is an anachronism, and really shouldn't matter so much to people. It's an arbitrary number, and it says nothing. Pierre Thomas didn't get 1,000 yards, is not any good either?

He isn't bad, but he's nothing to write home about. Slightly better than Maroney IMO. Just so happens he too plays on a prolific offense. He benefits from teams having to respect Brees.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Chester Taylor is plenty capable of commanding money. He's a good RB... kinda like Maroney. That's why he's able to get 3+ million per year, which is pretty good RB money. It's more than Maroney makes right now.

Taylor is a 3rd down back who got 40+ catches the last two seasons.

The 1,000 yard fixation is an anachronism, and really shouldn't matter so much to people. It's an arbitrary number, and it says nothing. Pierre Thomas didn't get 1,000 yards, is not any good either?

The difference between Pierre Thomas and Maroney?

Maroney 3.9ypc= average to below average

Pierre Thomas 5.4ypc= game changing

only 1.5ypc difference.

 

[patsfan-1982]

The guy had 194 attempts last season... not much different than 200. He didn't come close to 1000yrds. That is not very good production.

In 2007, he had 185 in the most prolific passing offense in the history of the league, and he still only manged a pedestrian 835 (4.5ypc is inflated because the LBS and DBs had to respect the pass and play further off the LOS).

here is the top 5 passing teams from last year and there leading rusher

#1 Texans. leading rusher Steve Slaton, 131 att 437 yards 3.3 per att 3 TD's

#2 colts. leading rusher Joseph Addai, 219 att 828 yards 3.8 yards per att 10 TD's

#3 pats. leading rusher Laurence Maroney, 194 att 757 yards 3.9 yards per att 9 TD's

#4 saints leading rusher Pierre Thomas, 172 att 793 yards 5.4 yards per att 6 TD's

#5 san digeo. leading rusher LaDainian Tomlinson, 223 att 730 yards 3.3 yards per att 12 TD's


most top passing teams just don't have a true Feature RB

 

[BradyFTW!]

Taylor is a 3rd down back who got 40+ catches the last two seasons.

Yeah, that's a pretty good RB, like I said.

The difference between Pierre Thomas and Maroney?

Maroney 3.9ypc= average to below average

Pierre Thomas 5.4ypc= game changing

only 1.5ypc difference.

Straw man, I never said they were equivalent. Just pointing out that 1,000 yards rushing isn't the dividing line between good RBs and bad ones. It's a nice number, but a completely arbitrary one. Reminds me of the people who say that Fred McGriff isn't a HOFer because he didn't hit 500 HR. There are a lot of reasons why you can argue that McGriff doesn't belong there, but falling seven homers short of an arbitrary benchmark with no real significance isn't one of them.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Barring injury is THE factor this year for LoMo....has been hurt every year since he has been in this league

He wasn't hurt last year.

He gets nicked up and misses a game or two most years, but so do most other RBs in the NFL. He isn't hurt any more often than your average RB.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

As a NFL RB, Maroney's pretty alright.

As a first rounder, though, it's hard to get excited. That's what I think screws him. It's natural to want/expect/need/choose your verbiage your first round pick to be a game-changer.

As of this moment, I don't think Maroney is... but I guess the real question is, do the Patriots NEED him to be one?

 

[emoney_33]

The best is yet to come, and won't that be fine

 

[IcyPatriot]