Haloti Ngata

[flynismo]

My guess is he's referring to the only coach to ever win the SB 3 times in 4 yrs, the team that's gone to the AFCCG 5 times in the last 8 yrs, the only 16-0 regular season ever, the only team to go 18-0 ever, the two 21+ game winning streaks, and the best team in football this decade.

Oh yeah, and the current favorites to win SB 44 (again).

IMO, the one good yr for the Ravens doesn't come close to equaling these accomplishments this decade.

So, in other words, living in the past does afford one to talk smack but get offended when someone else does?
That's all nice and pretty, but what happened years ago has nothing to do with tomorrow.

 

[supafly]

So, in other words, living in the past does afford one to talk smack but get offended when someone else does?
That's all nice and pretty, but what happened years ago has nothing to do with tomorrow.

Many of those accomplishments are pretty current, but I agree that it'll have nothing to do w/ tomorrow's outcome.

Last yr the BAL franchise went 11-5, and it was considered the height of everything. Last yr, we went 11-5, and it was considered a MAJOR letdown. Maybe you can see where I'm going with this...?

It doesn't matter anyway, because teams' fans who talk trash are kinda immature, IMHO.

I don't want anyone confusing us with Steeler fans. I have to live in that city and these people are total obnoxious garbage. I just wish you would've beaten them last yr.

 

[Baltimorefan06]

He means winning in general. Don't forget you were 5-11 just 2 years ago.

Last year was step in the right direction with a new HC and QB, but this year will see if that was a flash in the pan.. too soon to start talking smack about the men who run around in black nylon stockings. Was that particular design taken from Balachine ballet?

What about the other five playoff appearances in the past decade?

Again, I think some of my fellow Ravens fans have completely and totally overrated many of our players, but Baltimore has arguably been a top five franchise over the past decade.

 

[Deus Irae]

What about the other five playoff appearances in the past decade?

Again, I think some of my fellow Ravens fans have completely and totally overrated many of our players, but Baltimore has arguably been a top five franchise over the past decade.

That was all my point was about. I can't talk for the others. They threatened to beat me up if I do.

 

[flynismo]

What about the other five playoff appearances in the past decade?

Again, I think some of my fellow Ravens fans have completely and totally overrated many of our players, but Baltimore has arguably been a top five franchise over the past decade.

meh, it's not really about us. I was going to point out our playoffs and W/L record for the decade, but some of the fellas here won't hear me since they feel they are ENTITLED to talk down to other people just because their team won some Super Bowls 5,6 and 8 years ago.
It's all good, I'd rather take the high road, so I'm not getting into a big debate about it.

 

[flynismo]

But you don't understand....

The Ravens have 5 Jonathan Ogden's on the offensive line, to go along with the 11 Hall of Famers on the defense and the greatest QB and RB tandem God ever even THOUGHT of creating.

Really, the Patriots are probably just hoping that they can keep the spread under 180 points.

Umm, because I said or implied anything remotely close to that? Or are you just making things up?

 

[Deus Irae]

Umm, because I said or implied anything remotely close to that? Or are you just making things up?

1.) You aren't the only Baltimore fan posting here

2.) Some of that is about crossover from a different thread for Pats/Ravens

 

[BradyFTW!]

do guys remember the same smack that steelers were talking in 2004? they said we were not at their level and this was BEFORE they won anything. then brady torched them in the AFCCG with a 102 degree fever.

the same applies to you baltimore crows fans. win something in this league (and i don't mean 9 years ago) and then come talk. what level are the crows even at now? you struggled against a good san diego team and bad KC team. now you come on here talking smack?

Ravens won their last SB in 2000, Pats did in 2004. It's 2009 now. There aren't many teams that have been consistently good in the 2000s, but the Ravens are one of them. Sure, they've had some below-.500 years, but who hasn't? The Pats- that's it. Even the Colts had one. Acting like the Ravens haven't done anything lately, though, just doesn't go well with the facts. They've been one of the most consistently good teams in the NFL for almost a decade.

That said, if the team is half as talented as some of these guys are claiming, then you really have to wonder how they haven't won the last three SBs. Obviously, these guys are overstating the Ravens' talent, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it is a really good football team.

 

[Baltimorefan06]

Ravens won their last SB in 2000, Pats did in 2004. It's 2009 now. There aren't many teams that have been consistently good in the 2000s, but the Ravens are one of them. Sure, they've had some below-.500 years, but who hasn't? The Pats- that's it. Even the Colts had one. Acting like the Ravens haven't done anything lately, though, just doesn't go well with the facts. They've been one of the most consistently good teams in the NFL for almost a decade.

That said, if the team is half as talented as some of these guys are claiming, then you really have to wonder how they haven't won the last three SBs. Obviously, these guys are overstating the Ravens' talent, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it is a really good football team.

That pretty much sums everything up.

 

[scpurkfool]

Some of these Baltimore fans may be slightly exaggerating the talent of a couple of our players. But remember this, many of the players that we talk about are YOUNG. You may think that our O Line has been talked up by some of the Bmore posters. At this moment they aren't the best in the league, but they will be. I don't doubt it one bit.

Gaither- 3rd year Grubbs- 3rd Year Birk- Older, but Pro Bowler with a couple of good years left Chester- 4th year, just coming into his own but still the weakest link Oher- Rookie beast

Ray Rice- Dynamic back, hasn't proven much yet but has flashes. 2nd year
LeRon McLain- Strong, hard nosed runner and blocker. Can catch out of the backfield. 3rd year.
Joe Flacco- Strong arm, very accurate, calm demeanor, hard worker. I think most people would agree that he will be a good one. 2nd year

I'm not saying these guys are amazing, or even as good as the players on the Pat's O, but there really is no denying that this is a YOUNG, talented offense. Someone said something about how if our players are so great then why haven't we won a Super Bowl lately. Well, I wouldn't expect us to win the big one in their first one or two years, but I expect to see the talent translated to a championship soon.

 

[flynismo]

1.) You aren't the only Baltimore fan posting here

2.) Some of that is about crossover from a different thread for Pats/Ravens

I apologize, I thought that was directed at me.

 

[mayoclinic]

I apologize, I thought that was directed at me.

For the record, you've been a great poster, and it's been a pleasure having you here this week. Actually, all of you guys have been great, whatever the differences of opinion.

 

[mayoclinic]

Here's Jim McBride's take on Ngata and the NE running game:

"New England’s offensive line showed last week it’s not just an exceptional pass-blocking unit. The big uglies, particularly guards Logan Mankins (a relentless and ruthless blocker) and Stephen Neal (an exceptionally quick and athletic bully), were firing off the ball and winning the trench battles all day against an overmatched Falcon front seven. The task gets monumentally tougher this afternoon with the beastly Ravens in town. The key to Baltimore’s run-stuffing efforts (it hasn’t allowed a 100-yard rusher in 38 games) is 6-foot-4-inch, 345-pound tackle Haloti Ngata. This woolly mammoth has awesome strength and surprising quickness. Ngata can occupy several blockers, clearing space for Baltimore’s scary trio of linebackers to hunt down and punish ball carriers. Patriots center Dan Koppen along with Mankins and Neal have to deliver body shots on Ngata with the hope of wearing him down."

Scouting report: Ravens present formidible challenge - The Boston Globe

Pretty accurate. The Baltimore defense all revolves around Ngata, IMHO. Lewis, Suggs and Reed are the big play names, but Ngata makes it all happen - shuts down the run, sucks up blockers and opens the gaps for Ray, and collapses the pocket. Woolly mammoth is right - it's like having Manny from Ice Age on your DL.

 

[flynismo]

For the record, you've been a great poster, and it's been a pleasure having you here this week. Actually, all of you guys have been great, whatever the differences of opinion.

Thank you, it's been a pleasure to chat with everyone. The Pats have a very knowledgeable crowd supporting them. I'm definitely going to pop in once in a while, the Steelers forums aren't very hospitable to my kind

 

[BradyFTW!]

Thank you, it's been a pleasure to chat with everyone. The Pats have a very knowledgeable crowd supporting them. I'm definitely going to pop in once in a while, the Steelers forums aren't very hospitable to my kind

your kind being Ravens fans or functioning, literate human beings?

 

[scpurkfool]

your kind being Ravens fans or functioning, literate human beings?

People without mullets, that have teeth, and date outside of the family.

 

[jays52]

your kind being Ravens fans or functioning, literate human beings?

And a full compliment of chromosomes?

 

[flynismo]

Here's Jim McBride's take on Ngata and the NE running game:

"New England’s offensive line showed last week it’s not just an exceptional pass-blocking unit. The big uglies, particularly guards Logan Mankins (a relentless and ruthless blocker) and Stephen Neal (an exceptionally quick and athletic bully), were firing off the ball and winning the trench battles all day against an overmatched Falcon front seven. The task gets monumentally tougher this afternoon with the beastly Ravens in town. The key to Baltimore’s run-stuffing efforts (it hasn’t allowed a 100-yard rusher in 38 games) is 6-foot-4-inch, 345-pound tackle Haloti Ngata. This woolly mammoth has awesome strength and surprising quickness. Ngata can occupy several blockers, clearing space for Baltimore’s scary trio of linebackers to hunt down and punish ball carriers. Patriots center Dan Koppen along with Mankins and Neal have to deliver body shots on Ngata with the hope of wearing him down."

Scouting report: Ravens present formidible challenge - The Boston Globe

Pretty accurate. The Baltimore defense all revolves around Ngata, IMHO. Lewis, Suggs and Reed are the big play names, but Ngata makes it all happen - shuts down the run, sucks up blockers and opens the gaps for Ray, and collapses the pocket. Woolly mammoth is right - it's like having Manny from Ice Age on your DL.

You guys seem to have a collective mancrush on Ngata and Ed Reed, lol....

It's nice to see Ngata finally getting some recognition outside of Baltimore. He's as good as advertised. Maybe even better, because a little known fact is how is also used in our offense as well (we have a couple packages where he lines up as a tackle or TE for his run-blocking ability, and believe it or not, his HANDS.)
Every team has a few players who don't get the respect they deserve (Ngata, Kelly Gregg, Jared Gaither and Dawan Landry are ours). Who do you guys think are overlooked Pats players? (I think Mankins has to be on top of that list).

 

[flynismo]

People without mullets, that have teeth, and date outside of the family.

err...please don't confuse us with Steelers fans. We're the murderous thugs, remember?

 

[mayoclinic]

You guys seem to have a collective mancrush on Ngata and Ed Reed, lol....

It's nice to see Ngata finally getting some recognition outside of Baltimore. He's as good as advertised. Maybe even better, because a little known fact is how is also used in our offense as well (we have a couple packages where he lines up as a tackle or TE for his run-blocking ability, and believe it or not, his HANDS.)
Every team has a few players who don't get the respect they deserve (Ngata, Kelly Gregg, Jared Gaither and Dawan Landry are ours). Who do you guys think are overlooked Pats players? (I think Mankins has to be on top of that list).

Not too many overlooked Pats, especially on offense. Mankins is one of the best guards in the game, but he generally gets that recognition, and has made the pro bowl. Practically the whole team got voted to the pro bowl in 2007, so it's hard to argue that we've been overlooked.

Ty Warren is a pro bowl caliber 3-4 DE who generally stays out of the spotlight. Brandon Meriweather appears to be emerging as a potential elite safety. Leigh Bodden looks like he is a legitimate top CB, but it's still early.

We have a bunch of young guys who look like they will be good, but it's too early to tell. Belichick is generally much more conservative than most about playing rookies - Mankins and Mayo were the exceptions, not the rule. I know there's been a lot of discussion among Baltimore fans about why 2nd round draft pick Paul Kruger hasn't gotten much playing time. In New England, that would be common.