Why Pioli left?

[Box_O_Rocks]

Pioli revealed the reason in his first news conference with the chiefs.... his wife wanted to raise their daughter in the midwest (where she grew up) and NOT in New England.

Oh good grief.

Pioli talked about a lot of factors that went into his decision and one of them was the fact his daughter is 5 years old. He gets an offer from a great team/ownership situation, near his wife's family in Wichita, with other family members living in the KC area, and just before their daughter would be starting school. Pioli has an opportunity to stay in one place for his daughter's schooling - then he can send her to Wesleyan to prepare her for her career as an NFL Head Coach.

It all came together at the right time for family stability, he certainly did "not" say anything against New England as an environment for his daughter.

 

[Ring 6]

He just wanted to have the opportunity to fire Herman Edwards.......

Thats a good reason. If you could fire him then call him back the next day to fire him again, it would be a dream job no man could pass up.

 

[JR4]

It isn't a major rebuilding effort. If there is an uncapped year, the Pats will have 13 RFA next year including Gostkowski, Hobbs, Kazcur, and Mankins. The Pats can easily retain those guys with the cap room they have. Without the uncapped year, Hobbs and Mankins become free agents, but the Pats will have plenty of room to sign both along with either Wilfork or Seymour (maybe both) and Neal.

The Pats will be fine. They will have something like $80-90 million to sign free agents next year. If the Pats had only 30 guys on the roster and only $20 million in cap room, then I would be worried.

IF, PATs mange to get all players back they want. No problem.
But there will be other teams interested in many of these players.
Of the 30+ players suppose 15 take better offers from other teams.

Still no problem you say because we have LOTs of money to get other
players.

What about the NEW players obtained to replace those that take better
offers?
Will they be as good in PATs system?
What effect will they have on team chemistry that the PATs now enjoy.
Lots of uncertainty here.

So now you are Pioli. Your reputation is A++. You can land a big deal
with many teams.
Will you risk your reputation on a major change in the roster and the possibility the PATs don't do as well with potentially many the new players which may have a negative impact on your reputation
OR
do you strike while the iron is hot, and get that big contract?

I know some will say even if PATs don't do as well it won't hurt his
reputation. Who really knows. At least in negotiations a potential
buyer might bring it up in an attempt to get a better deal.

Can anyone really say Scott did not at least consider this?
Remember you are dealing with a man who is use to considering all
moves and the effects in the future.

 

[DarrylS]

This thread has way too much drama..

Pioli left so he could craft his own mark on the NFL.. he was successful here, but would always be in BB's shadow... it was a great opportunity, more money and a chance to be completely in charge of a storied franchise that has recently had problems.

It is primarily the same reason that Cassell will move on, he could be a really great back up or a great starter.. it is not all that complicated..

The Pats have an infrastructure in place and as long as BB is here things will remain stable and we will always be at the top.. this is what happens in the NFL.. success is rewarded and the Pats will be imitated.. there is somewhere in the bowels of Gillette a master plan...

 

[Mangold74]

I think he left for money like everyone else in the front office/coaching staff. I don't know what his contract was/is but Kraft doesn't like to pay anyone but BB. Pioli is widely respected and you never want to leave a place with a hall of fame coach/qb.

 

[Patsrock]

Pioli revealed the reason in his first news conference with the chiefs.... his wife wanted to raise their daughter in the midwest (where she grew up) and NOT in New England.

Not that important, but didn't Pioli's wife grow up in New Jersey(ya know with her Dad Bill Parcells)? I maybe wrong but

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Only he truly knows. In my mind he had nothing left to prove here. As long as BB/Brady are here they are going to get all the credit when we win. People recognize Pioli but he is no more than a sidekick to BB. You could maybe liken it to Kobe Bryant winning titles with Shaq around. Kobe was great but Shaq was always the man there, and Kobe his sidekick. After winning 3 titles what's Kobe got left to prove with Shaq still there? Now that Shaq's gone Kobe actually has something to prove.

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Not that important, but didn't Pioli's wife grow up in New Jersey(ya know with her Dad Bill Parcells)? I maybe wrong but

I think she lived with her mom, not her dad.

 

[Ring 6]

IF, PATs mange to get all players back they want. No problem.
But there will be other teams interested in many of these players.
Of the 30+ players suppose 15 take better offers from other teams.

Still no problem you say because we have LOTs of money to get other
players.

What about the NEW players obtained to replace those that take better
offers?
Will they be as good in PATs system?
What effect will they have on team chemistry that the PATs now enjoy.
Lots of uncertainty here.

So now you are Pioli. Your reputation is A++. You can land a big deal
with many teams.
Will you risk your reputation on a major change in the roster and the possibility the PATs don't do as well with potentially many the new players which may have a negative impact on your reputation
OR
do you strike while the iron is hot, and get that big contract?

I know some will say even if PATs don't do as well it won't hurt his
reputation. Who really knows. At least in negotiations a potential
buyer might bring it up in an attempt to get a better deal.

Can anyone really say Scott did not at least consider this?
Remember you are dealing with a man who is use to considering all
moves and the effects in the future.

OK, first you have to concede you have lost the argument when you are down to 'can anyone really say he did not at least consider this'.
I would bet he considered whether the drive time to work would be longer or shorter. That doesn't mean that is the reason he left.

What you would have to show to make this a viable hypothesis is that something was materially different this off-season than any other. I don't see that anything is.

If you were walking away from a potential degradation of the franchsie you run, and dont feel with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and everything else this team has going for it that you make an average amount of personell decisions that fear doesnt send you to a team that is coming of 2-23 in their last 25 games and basically have a grand total of zero going for them. He probably needs 49 new players there before he can win.

 

[Ring 6]

I think she lived with her mom, not her dad.

There is something about this in Educaiton of a Coach. Parcells actually quit coaching for a year after he was hired by the Giants because his wife refused to move East. The story goes that he made her life miserable for that year so she gave in. I think that was in Colorado but it might have been Wichita State. Parcells spent time at Wichita State.
I think Pioli's wife grew up in a lot of different places. If she is 40-ish which I think she is, she was already a teenager when the Tuna went to the NFL.

 

[Mangold74]

There is something about this in Educaiton of a Coach. Parcells actually quit coaching for a year after he was hired by the Giants because his wife refused to move East. The story goes that he made her life miserable for that year so she gave in. I think that was in Colorado but it might have been Wichita State. Parcells spent time at Wichita State.
I think Pioli's wife grew up in a lot of different places. If she is 40-ish which I think she is, she was already a teenager when the Tuna went to the NFL.

He left for the $$$$$$$

 

[Scouse Patriot]

A fresh challenge would be my guess...

 

[Ring 6]

I think he left for money like everyone else in the front office/coaching staff. I don't know what his contract was/is but Kraft doesn't like to pay anyone but BB. Pioli is widely respected and you never want to leave a place with a hall of fame coach/qb.

What is a Jet fan doing commenting on successful coaches and executives?

 

[Deus Irae]

Kansas City has better steaks and better barbeque. That's probably it.

 

[Patjew]

I think he left for money like everyone else in the front office/coaching staff. I don't know what his contract was/is but Kraft doesn't like to pay anyone but BB. Pioli is widely respected and you never want to leave a place with a hall of fame coach/qb.

That's the least logical sentence I've seen in a while. Give it up, you fail.

 

[Patjew]

What is a Jet fan doing commenting on successful coaches and executives?

Making an ass of himself.

 

[Patjew]

Maybe he wanted to work someplace with loud fans.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Maybe he wanted to work someplace with loud fans.

Zing!!!!!!

 

[Patjew]

Zing!!!!!!

Shecky Patjew strikes again!

 

[BelizePats]

What a great line Andy. Thank you.