Cassel 15/22 160 yards 0 TD 0 INT

[BelizePats]

To Briz,

It is clear that you do not understand the fundamental aspects of the game. The level of competition in the NFL is really quite extraordinary and for you to say "yeah well it was the scrubby Jets", demonstrates how foolish you are. Cassel had a few shaky moments in the second quarter but was very clutch when he needed to be.
I can guarentee that in the locker room, after the game, BB gave him the game ball for his performance.
But you know more than BB and want a rookie with no NFL experience at all in there???
You are just a silly man!

 

[BRiZ]

BRiZ... seriously. GET OFF OF IT!

He's not completely in sync with the receivers because he hasn't played a ton with them. This will take a little bit of time (as it would for ANY QB). It was a divisional game against a team that knows us very well and does have some young talent on defense. (Brady threw for 140 yards in game 2 against the Jets last year.... we won 20-10. Maybe Brady is terrible too?)

PATIENCE... and get the hell off it

the 2nd game last year against the Jets the weather was horrible, if you forgot there was like 35 mph winds. How did Brady do the 1st game against the Jets?

We played two games against the worst teams in the league and Cassel has thrown 1 TD. And we got the Dolphins next week if he doesnt produce by then he should be yanked. 3 TDs MINIMUM against the fish or all hell is gunna break loose.

 

[STFarmy]

I heard some idiot from MA call into the local Pats postgame radio show hosted by Gary Tanguay and Andy Gresh. He was "not impressed" with Cassel, and said that this win wasn't a big deal because the Jets are a bad team (true) and Cassel didn't throw downfield well. When Gresh defended Cassel's botched hand-off play (the one after he hurt his knee and was rocked by a Jets blitzer), the guy said that Cassel had to "suck it up, it's a man's game." There's nothing worse than a fat jerkoff telling professional athletes to suck it up and be men from their telephone, likely on a couch and eating fried animal parts. I can't figure out why people are still down on Cassel; sure it wasn't a HOF performance, but they won and he was pretty much mistake-free.

I like what I saw on O'Connell as well, but I think BB is more qualified to say who should start.

 

[BelizePats]

I know the type of fan you are. You know more about football than anyone you know. You can never understand why others don't think the way you do. Your ability to analyze and make play suggestions is far superior to those of the guys at your office. Its tragic.
The last line in your last post tells everyone everything they need to know about you.
We won the game with an inexperienced QB in a hostile environment against our most bitter division rivals and you are demanding 3 TDs next week or else???
Welcome to ignore!!!!

 

[PATRIOT64]

I actually hope he rarily has to be the reason for the team to win games and just keeps managing what his job is and not become a hero which could result in mistakes,It has to be the RBs and the defense to carry the team where it wants to go which is the SB -

Cassel is not going to be the reason the team wins games often this year - The RBs and defense will have to continue playing as well as they have today for it to happen.

 

[emoney_33]

the 2nd game last year against the Jets the weather was horrible, if you forgot there was like 35 mph winds. How did Brady do the 1st game against the Jets?

We played two games against the worst teams in the league and Cassel has thrown 1 TD. And we got the Dolphins next week if he doesnt produce by then he should be yanked. 3 TDs MINIMUM against the fish or all hell is gunna break loose.

I apologize for your lack of understanding on the game of football. Cassel has only had one week of practice with the first team. It will take some time for him and the receivers to get in sync. It will also take some time for him to gain more confidence on riskier throws. He also is required to do what the coaches ask of him, which is exactly what he has done so far. O'Connell doesn't know the playbook nearly as well as Cassel nor does he fully grasp the system. He would not be able to read the defense as Cassel is able to and would operate on a severely restricted playbook that would be easy to stop by any smart coach.

 

[fair catch fryar]

am i the only one who thinks Oconnell would have done better? I mean seriously!

Just wait. BB will play it safe for a while, but guaranteed if Cassel continues to manage the game-plan effectively and stay relatively "turnover free" then I believe we'll see Cassel sending the ball down field more just like he did a few times in the KC game. I believe Moss will be getting the ball in time.

 

[pheenix11]

Some people just don't have a friggin clue. I will be glad when all the frontrunners who hopped on the bandwagon last year go back under their rocks.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

I *****ed about cassale for his preseason performance as much as anyone, but I thought he has played pretty good these last two games.

Give the guy a chance. Saying O'Connell could have done better is speculation. BB plays the guys that give them the best chance to win.

 

[Horace's Ivories]

o'connell would have had 75 yds rushing, 5 completions and a soiled uni. i like the kid but cassel has character, did well, and will continue to improve..

 

[PATRIOT64]

I *****ed about cassale for his preseason performance as much as anyone, but I thought he has played pretty good these last two games.

Give the guy a chance. Saying O'Connell could have done better is speculation. BB plays the guys that give them the best chance to win.

I am one of the biggest anti Cassel guys here but even I would not put a rookie into position if Cassel starts to suck down the road - I would rather sign a JAG QB that started in the NFL like in Garcia or Rattay than to put a rookie out there to the Wolves

If Cassel just has his little 150 yard games regularly and avoid mistakes in the 4TH QUARTER and does not try and even come close to what Brady does every year then the team will prosper greatly for it

Gutz will likely be cut next year and the team will probably not re-sign Cassel,especially if the Pats make the playoffs because then other teams may want Cassel to possibly start for them if no better option is available for that particular team and I think O'Connell is our #2 NEXT year.

Let the RBs and Defense win these games and Cassel manage his smaller part of helping the team win by being mistake free as best he can when he is needed to perform.

 

[CoachK]

am i the only one who thinks Oconnell would have done better? I mean seriously!

I certainly hope so.

 

[Sicilian]

If Grossman had played in 2006 like Cassel has the first two games here (low risk, game management, no turnovers), the Bears would have won the Super Bowl.

Some people are way too spoiled and think if a QB doesn't win the game on his own he isn't worth playing. Call it the Brady Factor

 

[ClevTrev]

I posted this in another thread, and it's worth posting here as well:

Let's compare Cassel's first full game with one Tom Brady:

Order is Attempts Completions Yards TDs Interceptions & Final score
Cassel: 23 16 165 0 0 NE 19 NYJ 10 (14 Sep 2008)
Brady : 23 13 168 0 0 NE 44 IND 13 (30 Sep 2001)

Now the Pats racked up 177 yards rushing in Brady's first full game, but I'd say the game plans were quite similar in that Brady was managing a conservative game with Antowain Smith and Kevin Faulk rushing for the bulk of the yards.

Before anyone gets too far out on the ledge, it's obvious that Belichick is going to vary his game plan based on the opponent and his QB's experience level. I'm guessing that a healthy and well-protected Matt Cassel will start to open it up quite nicely in the coming weeks. His statistics compared with Brady's first full game are almost identical.

 

[PatsCanDoIt]

A Matt Cassel lead team nearly blew out the Jets. The first two drives deep into the red area, a missed throw deep to Moss(shoulda cought it anyway!) and another chance in the red area. If the Pats goes 50/50 on those we win 27-10.

Look on the bright side, Matt got to make some mistakes and we still win. These situations will present themselves again and he will improve.

Briz were you born prior to 1990? I'm just curious.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

The kid outperforms the legend and you choose to drag fingernails across chalkboard.

I am sure with O'Connell starting we would be 3-0 right now.

I cannot wait to read you when we actually lose a game if your like this with a win.

NO picks - game managed - game won...STFU.

I am shocked to hear you tell a fellow fan STFU and I agree wholeheartedly.

Briz, you're not getting this advice from the local hotheads but from some pretty long-suffering types at this point.

To call you a moron, and idiot, a twit, a bandwagoner, or anything else of the sort would be ad-hom. I will however say that your arguments exhibit the characteristics of poor reasoning and bandwagon-jumping. They are moronic, idiotic, twittish, and bandwagony arguments, despite the fact that you yourself may have an IQ of 270 and be the future curer of cancer or discoverer of a simple four dimensional grand unified theory that reconciles quantum and relativistic physics.

Guess what? The operative stat is "2." That's the number of wins with Cassel pretty much at the helm.

If you want one signature stat of the game, it's "0". That's the number of interceptions. Can you tell me that O'Connell "would have" (what an absurd phrase in this context) also thrown 0 interceptions? Of course not.

This isn't a sandlot team that pushes O'Connell or Guitierrez into service with no provocation. The Pats are not panicky and desperate. They are a very good team that lost its starter.

Belichick made the right choice in picking Cassel, despite your preferences. The proof is, Belichick made the choice. If Belichick chooses to agree with you at some point in the future, it is not because you were right all along. It is because your opinion happened to float into the realm of "right," when Belichick acted as you would prescribe.

Get it? We have a coach. He's pretty good at these kind of choices. You're not. If you were, you wouldn't be posting on a bulletin board. You'd be running an NFL team.

Of course that makes the boards boring, but it's true.

 

[AzPatsFan]

am i the only one who thinks Oconnell would have done better? I mean seriously!

Not a chance inthe World...

 

[tombonneau]

the 2nd game last year against the Jets the weather was horrible, if you forgot there was like 35 mph winds. How did Brady do the 1st game against the Jets?

We played two games against the worst teams in the league and Cassel has thrown 1 TD. And we got the Dolphins next week if he doesnt produce by then he should be yanked. 3 TDs MINIMUM against the fish or all hell is gunna break loose.

By "all hell is gunna break loose" you mean to say you will post something on the Internet?

 

[BRiZ]

I am shocked to hear you tell a fellow fan STFU and I agree wholeheartedly.

Briz, you're not getting this advice from the local hotheads but from some pretty long-suffering types at this point.

To call you a moron, and idiot, a twit, a bandwagoner, or anything else of the sort would be ad-hom. I will however say that your arguments exhibit the characteristics of poor reasoning and bandwagon-jumping. They are moronic, idiotic, twittish, and bandwagony arguments, despite the fact that you yourself may have an IQ of 270 and be the future curer of cancer or discoverer of a simple four dimensional grand unified theory that reconciles quantum and relativistic physics.

Guess what? The operative stat is "2." That's the number of wins with Cassel pretty much at the helm.

If you want one signature stat of the game, it's "0". That's the number of interceptions. Can you tell me that O'Connell "would have" (what an absurd phrase in this context) also thrown 0 interceptions? Of course not.

This isn't a sandlot team that pushes O'Connell or Guitierrez into service with no provocation. The Pats are not panicky and desperate. They are a very good team that lost its starter.

Belichick made the right choice in picking Cassel, despite your preferences. The proof is, Belichick made the choice. If Belichick chooses to agree with you at some point in the future, it is not because you were right all along. It is because your opinion happened to float into the realm of "right," when Belichick acted as you would prescribe.

Get it? We have a coach. He's pretty good at these kind of choices. You're not. If you were, you wouldn't be posting on a bulletin board. You'd be running an NFL team.

Of course that makes the boards boring, but it's true.

Cassel didnt get us 2 wins the defense and special teams did. Lucky we were playing garbage teams.

The best players should play, Oconnel is better than Cassel, i dont care if he has taret syndrome and cant read english as long as he throws TDs, runs the ball, and puts points on the board. If we are to have a chance at winning a SB the switch has to be made.

 

[JSn]

The kid outperforms the legend and you choose to drag fingernails across chalkboard.

I am sure with O'Connell starting we would be 3-0 right now.

I cannot wait to read you when we actually lose a game if your like this with a win.

NO picks - game managed - game won...STFU.

Gatorade. Out. My. Nose. LOL, nice.