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    I still don't understand the argument of why a "delayed notice warrant" isn't wiping your *** with the 4th amendment but I'd love to hear the counter argument from the legal "scholars" on this board to convince me otherwise.
     
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    I’m sure the 4th amendment issues with delayed notice warrants would be hotly debated among true legal scholars.
    Constitutional issues are rarely cut and dried and very few laws are found to “wipe the ass” with the constitution.
    You just have to be open to listening to the opposing view and understanding it has as much validity as your view.
     
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    It certainly is, it certainly is....
     
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    The whole thing reminds me of a French fire drill
     
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    A whole lot of brouhaha that demonstrates how poorly the police and the AG did their jobs and how they manipulated the Courts... Kraft did something really stupid, and now to hide their own incompetence that want to embarrass him??

    If the taping was done under for fabricated reasons resulting in a charge and playing the TMZ obsessed media, what is the value. The only thing that comes to mind is to play to the public of Fla as to what a "good job" they have done even though they used illegal means??

    This speaks volumes about Fla justice... a legal system "rope a dope" or another great distraction??

    Then who the f... wants to watch a 77 year old man getting a hand job or BJ???
     
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    Another great example is the way the Pats filming of the Rams walk through took off.
     
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    It's more like rationalizing an abuse of power. I think people are grossly underestimating how potentially dangerous this is.
     
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    It may have taken you a while to get there but now that you have come to the correct conclusion bless you my son, go forth and sin no more.
     
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    It could be argued people overestimate how dangerous it is. And the other side of the debate is preventing crime and criminal enterprise. If an undercover cop infiltrated a nazi white supremisist group that was murdering and torturing minorities and a delayed notice warrant was obtained would you feel the same way?
    My point is you have to look at all sides and look at the law not a single application of it.

    No doubt though it’s a complicated issue.
     
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    Believe it or not, there's a fetish category for such videos on websites like pornhub.com. If the Kraft video gets released it will live in perpetuity there and elsewhere, just like other celebrity sex videos. It is easy to understand why he's fighting to prevent its release.
     
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    No I did not at all. I said that i create discussion on points I disagree with or question. I see no need to go around a message board saying “I agree”.
    That isn’t contrarian.

    That’s fine if they want to do that but I see no value in it. How does “I agree” spark discussion?

    100% not true. As I said, I respond to the portions that I disagree with to spark discussion

    Ok well if you think “I know someone and they told me... and I really believe them” is a discussion ender that proves something with certainty I don’t know what to tell you.

    Dude it’s an anonymous message board.
    It’s actually whatever each user wants it to be.

    Actually it’s neither. Breaking into fragments is for clarity. You felt the need to put numerous individual points into one post, so I obliged by responding to each on its own.
     
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    Open again due to new developments however arguing and trolling will just get it locked again. Thread is about Kraft not Andy.
     
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    I hope Kraft sticks to his guns, release of the video be damned. Stand up for your rights and don't be intimidated by intentionally obtuse prosecutors.
     
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    ????

    Prosecutors are gonna release the vid.....came here to read that thread???
     
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    Kraft porn soon to be released. Feel bad for the guy
     
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    Florida prosecutors plan to release Kraft video

    Florio agrees with all of us (minus one). Prosecution isn’t doing this because they are being forced to (that could be a court order.). They’re just being a-holes just like with everything else in the case. The (what looks like an illegally obtained) video is all they have. They suck.
     
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    Someone pass on my prepared statement to Robert Kraft. I recycled the one from deflategate for him. ;):D

     

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