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That's what happens when you quit being journalists and elect yourself Goodell's propaganda mouth. NFL network is more critical of Goodell than ESPN.

He had HGH sent to his house. To his HOUSE!!! :mad:

No it wasn't. The Wells Report only said that Brady refused to turn over his phone. At the appeal hearing, Brady's lawyers told the NFL for the first time that the phone had been destroyed and the data was no longer retrievable (except for the record of text message recipients). It leaked to the...

At the appeal hearing with Goodell, Brady's lawyers told Goodell that Brady got rid of his phone the day he was interviewed by Wells. Goodell then used this information against Brady to sway public opinion back toward the NFL. I agree with everything else you said. It was still a dumb move to...

They screwed up the worst when they thought it was a good idea to tell the NFL that Brady destroyed his cell phone at the appeal hearing on the day he met with Wells. You can argue the cell phone is irrelevant. You can't possibly argue it was a savvy move to voluntarily disclose that...

That sucks.

I want to be as optimistic as possible. En banc decisions set a stronger precedent than normal decisions, correct? So even judges who want to ultimately rule in the NFL's favor may vote to hear this case in order to settle the matter. Yes? Maybe? Four games is ridiculous.

The timing of this report is interesting. Looks like they didn't want to draw any attention toward Kensil during the judicial proceedings.

Saints got railroaded worse than we did tbh. Can you imagine if Belichick was suspended for a year? Had they found one shred of dirt on him, that's exactly what would have happened.

Aren't we being a bit dramatic? (1) There is a faction of jealous NFL fans who will always believe the Patriots are cheaters. (2) This ruling was not a pronouncement of guilt. In fact, in order to win, the NFL basically had to argue that its investigation didn't have to be objective or fair. (3)...

The only way I see this happening is if Brady is granted an appeal en banc. Then the offer is two games, drop the appeal, no strings attached. But Brady won't take it. :D

We're all biting our nails on this one.

Judges are more professional than the league office.

Probably. But they're more so looking for important issues of law. A bad arbitration ruling by itself is not gonna get a second look by the Supreme Court.

He can appeal to the Supreme Court, but they only agree to hear a handful of cases each year.

Apologies if this has already been asked, but any possible way the Supreme Court grants review of this case if the appeals court reinstates the suspension? What are Brady's options? He can't let the league office win.

There's no way deflategate is ending in three months. The dumbest sports controversy in history cannot be stopped. My guess is it gets sent back to arbitration with instruction to let Brady cross-examine Jeff Pash.

I didn't think the judges would care about the phone... When the NFL suspended Brady, they knew he had refused to turn over his phone and didn't consider this obstruction. Only AFTER the science of the Wells Report fell apart did the phone become the "smoking gun." The destruction of the phone...

No, Goodell still lost. We all lost.

Whether or not Brady *did* it was never supposed to be an issue, but for some reason these N.Y. judges (including Berman) have been very interested in the facts of the original scandal. Probably because the scandal is more interesting than whether Goodell's ruling violated the CBA...