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The 1st round rated players end long before 23.
That's what Scouts have been saying for a while now.
It appears Caserio agrees.
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The 1st round rated players end long before 23.
With all the really good WRs in the draft, I don't believe that.
It seemed that way to me too (Minny winning). I agree. But maybe the idea about value in this draft is prevalent across the league by now.
I dunno man. There's probably 5-6 OTs and maybe as much as 10 WRs . We know for sure there's no less than 3 QBs. That's 19 and I have not looked at any other positions. Clearly, the Vikings see value.
I disagree 100% Burks had decent Rookie year plus injury 11 games a disappointing second year injured again but Tennessee had problems. I think Burks Breakouts this season. On Quentin Johnson this is his Second year some WR's take off in year two Johnson have all the tools. You care casting judgments way too early of those two but that's you being you.
From what I recall, it's very rare for a draft to have '1st round talent' beyond 15-20.
And Caserio's word is gospel now?? He got got lucky with Stroud remember that's who Frank Reich wanted in the First place but the foolish Carolina owner overruled him. That said the 2024 Draft is Deep at the Three Positions we Suck at QB - WR and OT.
Since the combine it seems more players are getting rated higher. For example, this horizontal board from Rob Staton only had 20 first round talents before the combine and 25 now. You're in the range at 23 where the first-round talent thins out and depending on the team you may find some that think there are only 20 and some think there are 30.
Unless they're only doing this to entice a team like the Patriots into thinking they've gotten "nominal" value in a trade-down.
You like what Treylon Burks is doing on a per game basis? 2 catches a game?I disagree 100% Burks had decent Rookie year plus injury 11 games a disappointing second year injured again but Tennessee had problems. I think Burks Breakouts this season. On Quentin Johnson this is his Second year some WR's take off in year two Johnson have all the tools. You care casting judgments way too early of those two but that's you being you.
Thanks for this. Seems they're looking at measurables rather than play.
We've had reports from Scouts saying the same thing for months. Now Caserio actually trades out of that spot for little return. This reinforces the scouts. We've been talking about this in the draft forum for quite awhile, and we've been saying DON'T TRADE OUT OF THE TOP 10.
Setting him up to choose Harry aren’t we?
I normally average about 8-15 1st round grades a year and don't expect that to change this year.
That's how teams get specific though. It's tough to build a board by who "played" the best when you bring in context. Thats why arm length, H/W, movement skills etc are factored in.
If we don't come away with one of Alt, Nabers, Odunze, Maye, Harrison etc it will be tough to sell this draft as a win. We have to stay in the top 7-10.
It definitely hurts a team like the Pats….ie. strong roster on defense, but lots of holes on offense…..that this draft is relatively devoid of blue chip defensive players. 9 out of the first 10 players, or even potentially 1-10 could be offensive players. I agree that it is risky to drop to 11 because of that. You’d have to hope that two of Turner, Arnold and Mitchell get picked in the top 10. If they got unlucky in the regard, Bowers would be a consideration at 11.
