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There's a bunch of guys from that mid 70's era that deserve consideration.
More than Darryl Stingley?? Jack Tatum got more recognition as the "assassin" than Stingley...
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They not only couldn't extend they had to use a technique that essentially had their elbows away from the body and their fists back to their chest. Now, they extend, grab, its just so different. DL used to be able to give a first step shot to the head, now illegal. Different game in the trenches. Get an old Detroit game with Nighttrain Lane at CB. A true assassin.Honestly....not sure I ever knew that OL couldn’t extend their arms...or if I knew once, I forgot. When did the rule change?
More? I dunno. Darryl should have some sort of special recognition, but his numbers are just ok, even for the era. The more I look at it, most of the guys who are from that era that should be in there are already in there. Sam hunt, Julius Adams, Raymond Clayborn maybe. But I would be in favor of some sort of recognition for Darryl.More than Darryl Stingley?? Jack Tatum got more recognition as the "assassin" than Stingley...
Ha!
Sounds like it was your time
...oh, you mean you got the beer for your dad
Well anyway you got to see team with the cool uniforms on the TV...
Darryl Stingley is the Troy Brown of that era.More than Darryl Stingley?? Jack Tatum got more recognition as the "assassin" than Stingley...
How Darryl got open on fourth down and ran off with the winning score at Three Rivers in '76 was the same as Troy Brown breaking free in OT to beat the Dolphins in '03.More? I dunno. Darryl should have some sort of special recognition, but his numbers are just ok, even for the era. The more I look at it, most of the guys who are from that era that should be in there are already in there. Sam hunt, Julius Adams, Raymond Clayborn maybe. But I would be in favor of some sort of recognition for Darryl.
More? I dunno. Darryl should have some sort of special recognition, but his numbers are just ok, even for the era. The more I look at it, most of the guys who are from that era that should be in there are already in there. Sam hunt, Julius Adams, Raymond Clayborn maybe. But I would be in favor of some sort of recognition for Darryl.
And the new DB rules opened up the passing for everyone, changing the game.His career was cut short at 5 years in, thus his numbers are a tad lower..
On those teams, the run was more prevalent or about equal to the pass.. in his last season(1977) he was the second leading receiver behind "all world" Russ Francis..
They not only couldn't extend they had to use a technique that essentially had their elbows away from the body and their fists back to their chest. Now, they extend, grab, its just so different. DL used to be able to give a first step shot to the head, now illegal. Different game in the trenches. Get an old Detroit game with Nighttrain Lane at CB. A true assassin.
**** "Night Train" Lane his highlights.They not only couldn't extend they had to use a technique that essentially had their elbows away from the body and their fists back to their chest. Now, they extend, grab, its just so different. DL used to be able to give a first step shot to the head, now illegal. Different game in the trenches. Get an old Detroit game with Nighttrain Lane at CB. A true assassin.
His numbers for his individual seasons, not career. I am not trying to say the man wasn't good, he was. He deserves recognition. I just don't know, given the success of the franchise since 1991, that he deserves "enshrinement". And yes, I believe it's a sliding scale.His career was cut short at 5 years in, thus his numbers are a tad lower..
On those teams, the run was more prevalent or about equal to the pass.. in his last season(1977) he was the second leading receiver behind "all world" Russ Francis..
This whole 1970's thing, the bottom line is, you had to be there.His numbers for his individual seasons, not career. I am not trying to say the man wasn't good, he was. He deserves recognition. I just don't know, given the success of the franchise since 1991, that he deserves "enshrinement". And yes, I believe it's a sliding scale.
You know that's a great question. I'm not sure, but my best guess would be sometime in the late 80's. I tried a quick google search and didn't find anything, though I'm sure someone better could get that answer. I know I'd appreciate the info.
BTW- BEFORE that rule change an offensive lineman was supposed to keep his hand stuck to his chest. Therefore his blocking surface would be measured from elbow to elbow. If you locked out your arms it was holding.
The technique was completely different. The object was to keep you head glued to the rusher's chest. So instead of creating space with your arms, you popped him in the chest with your head and moved your feet to stay in front of them.
I was thinking back to all my football playing days which accounted for 4 years in HS, 4 years in college and 2 after college, and I couldn't think of a play I made on either offense or defense that I DIDN'T lead with my head. When you blocked you fired out low with your head trying to put you facemask into the defender's chest. Then you were supposed to slide your head to the side you wanted to create the hole, and turned you hips into the block using your head and elbow as your blocking surface. Your target point was always the waist.
I kind of makes me wonder about CTE, because if hitting with your head (even in the proper position) causes it, then I'd be the poster child for CTE, because that's all I did.
This, combined with altered DB contact rules, opened up the passing game for everyoneAccording to a Washington Post article, it was changed in 1978.
The league has changed the rules on pass blocking to allow an offensive lineman to extend his arms and use an open hand in warding off those grabby, pushy, smack-em-in-the head defensive linemen.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...061c8ca/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.008253c035ef
Been a fan since '78.This whole 1970's thing, the bottom line is, you had to be there.
The post-merger era had just begun, this was the foundation for football going forward.
Only a few teams were good enough to win the Super Bowl, and the Patriots were one of them.
Only one team has had a Super Bowl clearly, blatantly stolen from them, and that is the Patriots.
Based on numbers, Swann doesn't deserve to be in Canton.
Honestly....not sure I ever knew that OL couldn’t extend their arms...or if I knew once, I forgot. When did the rule change?
Yeah 1978 was a watershed year in league history. Offense - that is to say, passing offense - was legislated into prominence at the expense of defense, and soon thereafter of rushing offense too. And for that reason the record for most team rushing yards in one season - the Pats' 3165 in 1978 - will never, ever, EVAH be broken.According to a Washington Post article, it was changed in 1978.
The league has changed the rules on pass blocking to allow an offensive lineman to extend his arms and use an open hand in warding off those grabby, pushy, smack-em-in-the head defensive linemen.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...061c8ca/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.008253c035ef
...the other reason is that our rushing game was awesome...Yeah 1978 was a watershed year in league history. Offense - that is to say, passing offense - was legislated into prominence at the expense of defense, and soon thereafter of rushing offense too. And for that reason the record for most team rushing yards in one season - the Pats' 3165 in 1978 - will never, ever, EVAH be broken.