What's your least favorite transaction of the BB era?

Raymond said:

Sorry, but Bill held onto 4 QB's in 2000 his first season while turning over the roster with 30 different players when winning in 01.

The chef has to see what's good in the fridge before placing the grocery order.

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True, plus credit him for not saying later when Bledsoe became active, "Sure Drew, I'll destroy everything we've accomplished so far this season just so wittle woo can have your 'job' back oochie woochie koochie koo..."

...which is precisely what Berry did for Eason in '88. That's what Drew expected.

luuked said:

Worst decision in a long while was to completely fumble the Scar transition after the 2013 season even though they knew a year ahead and had a succession plan in place.

What's the point of having Daboll shadow Scar for over a year just to make him TE coach after Godsey left for the Texans ?

Yes, I know that Ferentz just left recently and they had no depth in the offensive assistant department to take over TE coaching but I'd rather give this job to someone who isn't totally ready yet and make McD/oShea supervise that person than throw away the entire Daboll OL plan and then hire someone external to run the OL.

Unless it turns out Daboll was not cut out to be a OL coach anyway but then he screwed up by making him shadow Scar in the first place.

It's just one giant cluster****..

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I'm not a fan of Deguglielmo but they still won a Super Bowl against a great defense in one of the two seasons Scarnecchia was gone. Hard to place fault in Belichick when he won a Super Bowl without Scar. I'm glad they have Scar back but 1 out of 2 without him is still impressive.

Worst: Haynesworth, Hayes, Antonio Langham

Best transaction: Picking this up at a flea market last weekend for 100$



Apparently it's pretty rare and sold recently for 600$ on ebay!

Old age = short term memory, but I hated the idea of rolling out the 2013 season with Aaron Dobson, Josh Boyce and Kenbrell Thompkins being the future wide outs for us. Edelman had to become Welker 2.0 and I believe Amendola was hurt.
I've never seen Brady so frustrated with a group of receivers. He practically hit one of them in the back of the head while in the end zone and screamed "Turn around"!!

At least Julian came through.

Don't know if it's been said yet, but Adalius Thomas for me. I had such high hopes for him and what he would do for the 3-4 defense we were running at the time, and he was just so bad. Plus they paid him all that money.

Actual Pats Fan said:

True, plus credit him for not saying later when Bledsoe became active, "Sure Drew, I'll destroy everything we've accomplished so far this season just so wittle woo can have your 'job' back oochie woochie koochie koo..."

...which is precisely what Berry did for Eason in '88. That's what Drew expected.

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When Bledsoe played again one last time in the AFCCG he played pretty well, but it was clear that Brady was a better organizational fit and that BB didn't trust Bledsoe.

Joey007 said:

Was a good player in 07, and in 08 before he got hurt, but the 09 season of his heavily tarnishes any of that.

He had a big part in what turned the 09 team into a joke by the end of the year.

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They tried to build the whole defense around him though. I hate ochostinko, but he was just a WR. A whole era of not progressing at the LB position was due to AD Thomas.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:

Tom Brady.

We became cheaters and arrogant. Not to mention our bandwagon fans.

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Plus we let Drew Bledsoe walk! He was just starting to take that next step!

He'd have 10 rings by now.

Ivan said:

I'm not a fan of Deguglielmo but they still won a Super Bowl against a great defense in one of the two seasons Scarnecchia was gone. Hard to place fault in Belichick when he won a Super Bowl without Scar. I'm glad they have Scar back but 1 out of 2 without him is still impressive.

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In a year without major OL injury Googs was able to ride an entire room of players that were developed by Scar. A year later when we lost almost the entire IOL and then Vollmer to injury he couldn't neither adjust to issues during games nor develop talent.

Sorry but there is not much positive I see there.

PatsFanInVa said:

Plus we let Drew Bledsoe walk! He was just starting to take that next step!

He'd have 10 rings by now.

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Jokes aside, I dont think Bledsoe was clutch enough or good enough. Granted, I missed his era.

Think Bledsoe and Bill could of won one?

Simpelton said:

When Bledsoe played again one last time in the AFCCG he played pretty well, but it was clear that Brady was a better organizational fit and that BB didn't trust Bledsoe.

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I think it was clear that Brady was a better QB, not just a better fit. He did everything better than Drew, even though Drew's supporters couldn't see it at the time.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:

Jokes aside, I dont think Bledsoe was clutch enough or good enough. Granted, I missed his era.

Think Bledsoe and Bill could of won one?

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Hard to say for sure. Drew made a lot of mistakes. But, if Coughlin could win two with Eli then Bill should be able to squeeze at least one out with Drew.

luuked said:

In a year without major OL injury Googs was able to ride an entire room of players that were developed by Scar. A year later when we lost almost the entire IOL and then Vollmer to injury he couldn't neither adjust to issues during games nor develop talent.

Sorry but there is not much positive I see there.

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I think winning a Lombardi is a positive.

StockingAnarchyNumber12 said:

Jokes aside, I dont think Bledsoe was clutch enough or good enough. Granted, I missed his era.

Think Bledsoe and Bill could of won one?

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For all we know, Bill calls it the other way, and Drew closes out his career w/3 out of 4.

But think of it this way - Drew's been told a million times he's like a "coach on the field," he's always been that "talented quarterback" who was fighting his way through to ALMOST the top (mid 90s)... he had a whole narrative in his head, you gotta figure.

So could go either way, in terms of Drew... maybe he would have wanted it SOOOOOO much and stepped up. But Brady started out with a chip on his shoulder, and the surprising part is, never got less hungry. He's the kind of hungry you get when you're already successful but you want to be insanely great (to steal from the late great Mr. Jobs.)

Glad it turned out the way it did. Of course, for all we know, Drew woulda coulda shoulda done even better in the early 2000s. I don't think so for a minute, but hey, .01% chance? Maybe.

One more thing that's hard to quantify.... Brady was BB's "guy" after that season. That was the choice that would make or break both of them. Two of the greats to begin with, though nobody believed it yet, were going to have to prove it together.... couldn't complain at that point that it wasn't your groceries you were making dinner with.

PatsFanInVa said:

For all we know, Bill calls it the other way, and Drew closes out his career w/3 out of 4.

But think of it this way - Drew's been told a million times he's like a "coach on the field," he's always been that "talented quarterback" who was fighting his way through to ALMOST the top (mid 90s)... he had a whole narrative in his head, you gotta figure.

So could go either way, in terms of Drew... maybe he would have wanted it SOOOOOO much and stepped up. But Brady started out with a chip on his shoulder, and the surprising part is, never got less hungry. He's the kind of hungry you get when you're already successful but you want to be insanely great (to steal from the late great Mr. Jobs.)

Glad it turned out the way it did. Of course, for all we know, Drew woulda coulda shoulda done even better in the early 2000s. I don't think so for a minute, but hey, .01% chance? Maybe.

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Down in flames and disaster thereafter, just like with Eason in '88...

...meanwhile, Doug went up to Canada in the prime of his career for MVP's and titles, which he could have won here.

Ivan said:

I think winning a Lombardi is a positive.

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Not really. Don't see how Butler making that INT or not has any bearing on how you evaluate a OL coach.

drafting Cunningham over Dunlap, he over thought himself with that one.

Man is it ever the offseason

1960Pats said:

I think it was clear that Brady was a better QB, not just a better fit. He did everything better than Drew, even though Drew's supporters couldn't see it at the time.

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I agree. Bledsoe was a good quarterback though. He did some important things to put this organization on the right track and give it some credibility.

Put it this way. Bledsoe was good enough for the Patriots ownership to invest in putting a strong roster around, and he took that roster to the Superbowl. And lost, but he was there. It was the roster that we built to try to make a contender out of Bledsoe, that Brady was able to exploit and win with in 2001. Without the Bledsoe era Brady enters the league stuck in a go-nothing position on a go-nowhere roster and probably doesn't get the chance to prove he has what it takes to take over an NFL franchise, or if he does, he spends far more years than he did spend backing up for various quarterbacks before he gets his chance. To get his break, Brady needed to win, and that means he needed teammates that one can win with. The Bledsoe era made sure he had that.