Youth Movement???

Discussion in ' - Patriots Fan Forum' started by DarrylS, Sep 5, 2010.

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  1. DarrylS

    DarrylS Supporter Supporter

    After all the surprises it is obvious that this team is changing, with a huge move towards younger players... not sure what it means or how iit will translate on the field, but we are younger, probably faster but less experienced...

    In the 2009 draft we have retained 9 out of the 12 players; Chung, Brace, Butler, Vollmer, Tate, McKenzie, Ingraham, Prior and Edelman... most of whom will play big roles this year...

    In this years draft, we have retained 8 out of 12 : McCourty, Gronkowski, Cunningham, Price, Spikes, Hernandez, Mesko and Deadrick...

    This coupled with the UDFA of 2009: Hoyer, Lockett, Arrington

    And the UDFA of 2010: Love & Fletcher...

    Could be off by one of two of these guys, but looks like we now have 25 players in their first or second year... just about 50% of this team, is comprised of these players..
  2. Calciumee

    Calciumee Supporter Supporter

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    40 of the current roster joined the league in 2005 or later!

    That is quite impressive really.
  3. A_Ghost_In_The_Machine

    A_Ghost_In_The_Machine On the Roster

    At least it's good reason to be optimistic about the future
  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Pro Bowl Player

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    ... and yet I fully expect at least one analyst to refer to the Pats as aging and slow this year.:rolleyes:
  5. DefenseRules

    DefenseRules Pro Bowl Player

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    LOL, I would bet on it. :D
  6. Joker

    Joker Supporter Supporter

    well...Brady is getting older...maybe he won't pass for 4000 yards this season...oh wait...Gronk...forgot...oh and Crumpler...jeez..and Welker...remember him?...and of course dog faker faker unless he's single covered.

    It never ceases to amaze me how fans here forget that John Madden said on national TV that "the Patriots should play for overtime"...the whole world knew he was right...and this skinny kid with no resume passed the Pats into range for a Super Bowl win...I mean, he's worse today??? Nah, I'll take all the 35-28 wins they can grab.Youth and inexperience fades after 8 , 10 games into the season...then is when we'll know what kind of D we have now and into the future
  7. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? Supporter

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    One thing that's been bothering me for a while... what the hell is that in your avatar?
  8. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Pro Bowl Player

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    Whaddaya suppose the over/under is on these this year? 9? 10? Plus a win or two above this range and 1 or 2 below.

    Hopes are high, for sure. Pressure will be on the offense early, but I'm fine with that, given NE's experience and skills there, plus early season weather. Like someone mentioned in another thread, it will definitely be a test of Brady's leadership to keep pressing on when the D lapses, but I'm pretty sure he's up to it.
  9. cmasspatsfan

    cmasspatsfan In the Starting Line-Up

    I thought someone said it was 9 or 9 1/2
  10. FCB02062

    FCB02062 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Younger equals cheaper. I'm not surprised. Krafty would rather have a "C-" UDFA for 500K than a "B" journeyman veteran for 2M, even though said UDFA is not ready for prime time...
  11. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? Supporter

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    I guess Belichick isn't making the personnel decisions anymore, then? :bricks:
  12. Spiral

    Spiral Supporter Supporter

    My guess is that BB has taken a good look at his defense, and realized that he's at least another draft away from having a unit that is capable of playing at a high level. He's cleaned out several guys who have plateaued in favor of some younger guys, who may themselves not be around a year from now. I think last year's team was probably one of his least favorite teams--bad on 3rd down, bad in the red zone, and bad in the locker room. Without the opportunity to bring in 19 free agents like he did in 2001, I believe he's in a 2-3 year process of rebuilding the defense.

    I sure hope Brady's not kidding when he says he wants to play until he's 40.
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  13. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member Supporter

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    I guess Vince Wilfork must have walked away.

    This is the umpteenth post in your short career here about how 'cheap" Kraft is. Ok, we get it by now, fella. The only owner in American sports to build a $300+ million stadium with his own money and without PSL's and whose perenial playoff team somehow has lucked into winning the Super Bowl 3 times when it had never done it in the 35 years before he became owner is somehow not a good custodian of the Sullivan's outstanding track record.

    Obviously, Kraft makes the player personnel decisions and BB meekly works with what Kraft gives him.

    Your point is well taken. Thanks for the information.
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2010
  14. Calciumee

    Calciumee Supporter Supporter

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  15. Pewsterbaby

    Pewsterbaby Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Yeah, Kontra. I've wanted to know 'bout that Joker pic too. It looks like something out of Woody Allen's Sleeper(movies are supposed to be underlined, I think), or designed by the same artist who did the decor for that film.
    And Kontra, what's the dealio changing the best avatar on this whole site? Yers was the best of all. Well, the Joaquin Phoenix villain from Gladiator was a really good character and acting performance tho.

    And jeepers creepers, man. I wake up this morning to find the whole Pats universe turned upside down and all topsy turvy. Now, yer sasposta break it all down for me between now and next Sunday, so's I know what tha heck is goin' awn in Bill's noggin. Gez.
  16. shmessy

    shmessy Maude Staff Member Supporter

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    1) There's very little film available to the rest of the league on the Pats defense. How far you think Rexy's eyes are crossing now?
    2) BB is the Defensive coordinator this year - - the D is his personal baby in 2010.

    I think the two facts go together. BB is being his conspiratorial self here.

    The "Unknown D" to be personally coordinated by himself.

    Notice that NOTHING of that sort is happening on the Patriots offense where someone other than himself is the coordinator.
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  17. Patsfanin Philly

    Patsfanin Philly Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    In two years, BB has completely remade the defense. The defense averages 25.1 years of age with only two players over the age of 30 (TBC and Warren), compared to the offense's 27.84 average age and 10 players over the age of 30 (Brady,Taylor,Morris,Faulk,Moss,Crumpler,Light,Koppen,Kazcur,Neal)
    Average age by position (small sample size notwithstanding-disclaimers etc...)
    QB 28.5
    RB 30.2
    WR 26.0
    TB 24.3
    OL 28.7
    DL 25.85
    OLB 25.75
    ILB 24.5

    CB 24.4
    S 25.0
    ST 24.6
    Average age of the entire roster 26.35
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  18. Reckedtrek

    Reckedtrek 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    I'll never forget that as long as I live!
  19. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? Supporter

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    I usually change my avatar once a season. The Commodus tongue shot felt right.
  20. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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