Would you trade Tom Brady for 1st pick next year to snag USC's Matt Barkley

[BBass]

I agree with you about Brady's intangibles. But Tom Brady is 35-years-old. It is time for succession planning.

Think about the San Francisco 49ers and their trade for Steve Young. If you think Ryan Mallett is Steve Young, we're all set. If not, it's time to find the next guy.

The Krafts and Belichick (and Brady) have to be looking down the road - this year's cutdown and signings indicate they are. The oldest guy on the team is Tom Brady - everybody knows that.

Brady's legacy will always be the Pats no matter what happens from here on out - just as Joe Montana is synonymous with the 49ers and Bill Walsh. No worries there.

Joe Montana was a great QB no doubt about it but he was not the type factor Brady is. We live in a social media controlled country. Tom Brady is considered the best looking football player, all american guy, married to Giselle. You don't trade or cut someone with that type of profile it kills moral and turns all potential players against us not to mention ticket sales would drop and not rebound for a decade.

 

[ausbacker]

Joe Montana was a great QB no doubt about it but he was not the type factor Brady is. We live in a social media controlled country. Tom Brady is considered the best looking football player, all american guy, married to Giselle. You don't trade or cut someone with that type of profile it kills moral and turns all potential players against us not to mention ticket sales would drop and not rebound for a decade.

The underlying point is you don't trade a HOF QB for Matt Barkley: USC Quarterback.

 

[Patsrock]

No you wouldn't. Not even close. You're saying that the team that signs the contract can never get out of a contract in a trade? Where on earth did you get that idea?

Brady restructured his deal such that nothing is guaranteed past this year.

Per NBC's pro football site Even Tom Brady is working year to year | ProFootballTalk

"The Patriots can release Brady without consequence at any time before the fifth day of the 2013 league year. If they don’t, his $9.75 million base salary becomes fully guaranteed. (He also is due to receive a $5 million roster bonus on June 15, and a $250,000 workout bonus.)

Then, if Brady is on the roster for the last game of the 2013 season, his base salary of $9.75 million for 2014 becomes fully guaranteed."

When Brady restructured, he understood the cap, the dead money on 2012 and the need to sign his receiving corps. His restructure made it possible tag Welker, extend Hernandez and Gronkowski and pay Lloyd.

The Pats have multiple incentives to re-structure again before 2013, trade or release Brady depending on the 2013 cap. Brady has reasons to keep his cap hit reasonable so the team can keep a quality team around him. He also has leverage in this deal to extend and guarantee more money.

Do you understand how signing bonuses work?

When a team signs a player he gets a signing bonus. They spread that out over the life of the deal. Thus when a player gets released or traded the bonuses can longer be spread out and thus becomes due on the cap.

 

[ALP]

There are certain guys who should never be traded, if you trade them bad things happen to the franchise, Russell, Orr, Williams, Bird and Brady fall into this category. The Bruins were punished by the sports gods for many years for trading B Orr, you don't want to p*ss off the sports gods.

So Brady stays, no to anyone named Barkley. Charles or Matt.

I want Tom to get 4 SB rings in the next 5 years, so he has more SB wins than any other franchise.

Let's go big here.

i completely agree with you, but if you put that list up, how can you possibly leave Ruth off of it?

 

[SVN]

let this season begin....you will find during the game threads this season that quite a few people(without naming names) will echo this thought when brady has avg to bad game..

 

[goheels22002]

Joe Montana was a great QB no doubt about it but he was not the type factor Brady is. We live in a social media controlled country. Tom Brady is considered the best looking football player, all american guy, married to Giselle. You don't trade or cut someone with that type of profile it kills moral and turns all potential players against us not to mention ticket sales would drop and not rebound for a decade.

A lot to work with here.

The Niners traded Joe Montana at age 36 and a defensive back to the KC Chiefs for the 18th pick in the first round of the 1993 draft. Joe Montana won four Super Bowls with the 49ers. Trust those of us who were around in those days, he was as big a presence in the NFL as Tom Brady.

The 49ers moved on to Hall of Famer Steve Young and had a coaching change to George Seifert who won two Super Bowls of his own - one with Montana and one with Young as QB.

The 49ers drift out of elite status was associated with the corruption conviction of the 49ers owner, Eddie DeBartolo who screwed around with politicians in Louisiana and Mississippi to get control of riverboat casinos. He was convicted of perjury, suspended by the league and ultimately lost control of the franchise. It was the ownership change that led to a decline in the team's success and profitability. - not quarterback transitions.

The long term prospects for the Patriots are tied directly to the Krafts.

Last point: good luck with that "social media controlled country" you live in. I'm not sure where you live, but you may want to look into a democracy with elected representatives guided by a constitution that provides for checks and balances and a code of law built on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for its citizens.

 

[BrickPat]

I'm sure the Jets fans are having the same argument about Sanchez. Or Tebow. Package deal?

The jets couldn't get a weathered left cleat for those two stiffs.

 

[Angry Man]

I think this is what you meant to say?

And this is what I'm saying...

Daniel Bryan NO! NO! NO! for 10 minutes - YouTube

 

[SB39]

i completely agree with you, but if you put that list up, how can you possibly leave Ruth off of it?

Eh, anyone can have 86 bad years

 

[SB39]

It's ridiculous. Heck, even if BB were inclined to trade BRady - which he is NOT - he wouldn't go for the #1 pick. He'd probably want a couple of mid-first rounders and second rounders.

 

[SB39]

Exactly, How is Tebow working out. All I ever heard during the "Tebow" Pre Draft years. Blah, Blah Blah. We put an end to last last season. Now he's just Jest fodder...:bricks:

Tebow will be starting by week 6. Then benched by week 10

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Next year for Barkley?? Have to think about it.
This year for Andrew Luck?? Make that trade in a minute.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Why would a team give up their 1st overall pick for a top QB prospect in exchange for a 36+ year old QB? If the Patriots were willing to give up Brady to get the pick, why would the other team want to swap situations? They would just draft the young QB prospect to set their franchise up for the next 15 years...

If they already had a good QB, then they wouldnt trade for Brady in the first place, so this situation is basically impossible to happen.

 

[Ivan]

Awesome, first chance to use the ignore thread feature.

 

[nantucketguy]

This is stupid
IAN where are youuuu??!! I make a thread that suggests the value of trading Welker for a future 1st rounder or more and getting 9.5M off the salary cap. What happens?...Practice squad.
This guys is suggesting during the first week of the regular season trading the best player in the game for mark Sanchez Jr....WTF

Brady's gonna play until he's 40. Why would we trade him?

 

[BBass]

A lot to work with here.

The Niners traded Joe Montana at age 36 and a defensive back to the KC Chiefs for the 18th pick in the first round of the 1993 draft. Joe Montana won four Super Bowls with the 49ers. Trust those of us who were around in those days, he was as big a presence in the NFL as Tom Brady.

The 49ers moved on to Hall of Famer Steve Young and had a coaching change to George Seifert who won two Super Bowls of his own - one with Montana and one with Young as QB.

The 49ers drift out of elite status was associated with the corruption conviction of the 49ers owner, Eddie DeBartolo who screwed around with politicians in Louisiana and Mississippi to get control of riverboat casinos. He was convicted of perjury, suspended by the league and ultimately lost control of the franchise. It was the ownership change that led to a decline in the team's success and profitability. - not quarterback transitions.

The long term prospects for the Patriots are tied directly to the Krafts.

Last point: good luck with that "social media controlled country" you live in. I'm not sure where you live, but you may want to look into a democracy with elected representatives guided by a constitution that provides for checks and balances and a code of law built on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for its citizens.

They traded Joe knowing what they had in Young, they did not trade him for someone else already playing in the league or for a college player who never played a down in the NFL.

Are you suggesting that we have the same culture and social environment now as we did when the 49ners traded Joe? I am not talking about politics I am talking about fan bases and players desires in FA. How you turned that into the star spangled banner is beyond me but I think you missed my point.

 

[Leemo]

I'm sure the Jets fans are having the same argument about Sanchez. Or Tebow. Package deal?

Hell, they have a shot at #1 on their own. Revis or Mangold goes down and it's hello 2-14.

I doubt they will win 2 games to be honest even with Revis. JETS SUCK

 

[fnordcircle]

************ anyone who considers this is ******ed.

 

[JJDChE]

I'd consider it if I thought Barkley was a true stud and Brady had a crappy year this year.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

How did this thread get two stars? I felt ashamed giving it one star. It deserves negative stars. It sucks all of the stars off of every other thread.

to the OP:

What you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no stars, and may God have mercy on your soul.