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  1. drew4008

    drew4008 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Here's scores from a couple years ago:

    Name | School | Score | Position | Position Avg Score

    Antwan Odom Alabama 10 DE Avg 18.80
    Justin Smiley Alabama 21 G Avg 21.64
    Jason Shivers Arizona State 14 FS Avg 17.14
    Ahmad Carroll Arkansas 17 CB Avg 15.46
    Cedric Cobbs Arkansas 14 RB Avg 19.25
    Shawns Andrews Arkansas 20 T Avg 23.81
    Jason Peters Arkansas 9 TE Avg 26.78
    Karlso Dansby Auburn 15 LB Avg 20.79
    Dontarrious Thomas Auburn 24 LB Avg 20.79
    Chris Snee Boston College 19 G Avg 21.64
    Sean Ryan Boston College 35 TE Avg 26.78
    Josh Harris Bowling Green 25 QB Avg 25.00
    Mark Wilson California 30 T Avg 23.81
    Donnell Washington Clemson 8 DT Avg 16.67
    Gabe Nyenhuis Colorado 7 DE Avg 18.80
    Bradlee Van Pelt Colorado State 25 QB Avg 25.00
    Uyi Osunde Connecticut 21 DE Avg 18.80
    Brian Rimpf East Carolina 35 T Avg 23.81
    Keiwan Ratliff Florida 18 CB Avg 15.46
    Bobby McCray Florida 14 DE Avg 18.80
    Shannon Snell Florida 28 G Avg 21.64
    Max Starks Florida (OG) 35 T Avg 23.81
    Darnell Dockett Florida State 17 DT Avg 16.67
    Michael Boulware Florida State 24 LB Avg 20.79
    Kendyll Pope Florida State 18 LB Avg 20.79
    Greg Jones Florida State 25 RB Avg 19.25
    Bernard Berrian Fresno State 20 WR Avg 19.64
    Sean Jones Georgia 18 FS Avg 17.14
    Ben Watson Georgia 41 TE Avg 26.78
    Daryl Smith Georgia Tech 13 LB Avg 20.79
    Keyaron Fox Georgia Tech 16 LB Avg 20.79
    Nat Dorsey Georgia Tech 35 T Avg 23.81
    Isaac Hilton Hampton 23 DE Avg 18.80
    Travis Laboy Hawaii 29 DE Avg 18.80
    Isaac Sopoaga Hawaii 8 DT Avg 16.67
    Sean Bubin Illinois 24 T Avg 23.81
    Fred Russell Iowa 9 RB Avg 19.25
    Robert Gallery Iowa 23 T Avg 23.81
    Adrian Jones Kansas 17 T Avg 23.81
    Andrew Shull Kansas State 21 DE Avg 18.80
    Bryan Hickman Kansas State 16 LB Avg 20.79
    Eli Roberson Kansas State 11 QB Avg 25.00
    Antonio Hall Kentucky 20 G Avg 21.64
    Jared Lorenzen Kentucky 28 QB Avg 25.00
    Marquise Hill LSU 13 DE Avg 18.80
    Chad Lavalais LSU 10 DT Avg 16.67
    Steve Peterman LSU 20 G Avg 21.64
    Matt Mauck LSU 30 QB Avg 25.00
    Michael Clayton LSU 19 WR Avg 19.64
    Devery Henderson LSU 17 WR Avg 19.64
    Randy Starks Maryland 20 DT Avg 16.67
    Jeff Dugan Maryland 24 TE Avg 26.78
    Keith Smith McNeese State 17 CB Avg 15.46
    Kellen Winslow Miami 12 TE Avg 26.78
    Vince Wilfork Miami (FL) 10 DT Avg 16.67
    Sean Taylor Miami (FL) 10 FS Avg 17.14
    Vernon Carey Miami (FL) 18 G Avg 21.64
    D.J. Williams Miami (FL) 21 LB Avg 20.79
    Jonathan Vilma Miami (FL) 23 LB Avg 20.79
    Jarrett Payton Miami (FL) 12 RB Avg 19.25
    Carlos Joseph Miami (FL) 7 T Avg 23.81
    Jacob Bell Miami (OH) 22 G Avg 21.64
    Ben Roethlisberger Miami (OH) 25 QB Avg 25.00
    Jeremy LeSueur Michigan 16 CB Avg 15.46
    John Navarre Michigan 24 QB Avg 25.00
    Chris Perry Michigan 20 RB Avg 19.25
    Tony Pape Michigan 23 T Avg 23.81
    Matthias Askew Michigan State 10 DT Avg 16.67
    Jeff Smoker Michigan State 23 QB Avg 25.00
    Ben Utecht Minnesota 22 TE Avg 26.78
    Eli Manning Mississippi 39 QB Avg 25.00
    Stacey Andrews Mississippi 15 T Avg 23.81
    Joey Thomas Montana State 19 CB Avg 15.46
    Demorrio Williams Nebraska 12 LB Avg 20.79
    Sean Locklear North Carolina State 19 G Avg 21.64
    Philip Rivers North Carolina State 30 QB Avg 25.00
    Michael Turner Northern Illinois 35 RB Avg 19.25
    Vontez Duff Notre Dame 16 CB Avg 15.46
    Darrell Campbell Notre Dame 21 DT Avg 16.67
    Courtney Watson Notre Dame 24 LB Avg 20.79
    Julius Jones Notre Dame 16 RB Avg 19.25
    Chris Gamble Ohio State 9 CB Avg 15.46
    Will Smith Ohio State 23 DE Avg 18.80
    Darrion Scott Ohio State 12 DE Avg 18.80
    Tim Anderson Ohio State 25 DT Avg 16.67
    Will Allen Ohio State 13 FS Avg 17.14
    Adrien Clarke Ohio State 24 G Avg 21.64
    Maurice Clarett Ohio State 20 RB Avg 19.25
    Shane Olivea Ohio State 18 T Avg 23.81
    Ben Hartsock Ohio State 32 TE Avg 26.78
    Michael Jenkins Ohio State 20 WR Avg 19.64
    Derrick Strait Oklahoma 15 CB Avg 15.46
    Tommie Harris Oklahoma 11 DT Avg 16.67
    Brandon Everage Oklahoma 15 FS Avg 17.14
    Teddy Lehman Oklahoma 39 LB Avg 20.79
    Tatum Bell Oklahoma State 18 RB Avg 19.25
    Rashaun Woods Oklahoma State 21 WR Avg 19.64
    Igor Olshansky Oregon 29 DT Avg 16.67
    Junior Siavii Oregon 15 DT Avg 16.67
    Jason Fife Oregon 26 QB Avg 25.00
    Dwan Edwards Oregon State 29 DT Avg 16.67
    Steven Jackson Oregon State 28 RB Avg 19.25
    Tim Euhus Oregon State 34 TE Avg 26.78
    Rod Rutherford Pittsburgh 17 QB Avg 25.00
    Larry Fitzgerald Pittsburgh 18 WR Avg 19.64
    Shaun Phillips Purdue 17 DE Avg 18.80
    Stuart Schweigert Purdue 28 FS Avg 17.14
    Niko Koutouvides Purdue 28 LB Avg 20.79
    Kelly Butler Purdue 29 T Avg 23.81
    Dunta Robinson South Carolina 13 CB Avg 15.46
    Travelle Wharton South Carolina 12 T Avg 23.81
    Will Poole Southern Cal 14 CB Avg 15.46
    Kenechi Udeze Southern Cal 18 DE Avg 18.80
    Jacob Rogers Southern Cal 29 T Avg 23.81
    Keary Colbert Southern Cal 21 WR Avg 19.64
    Rod Davis Southern Miss 18 LB Avg 20.79
    Kirk Chambers Stanford 29 T Avg 23.81
    Bo Schobel TCU 27 DE Avg 18.80
    Anthonly Herrera Tennessee 23 G Avg 21.64
    Casey Clausen Tennessee 20 QB Avg 25.00
    Nathan Vasher Texas 13 CB Avg 15.46
    Marcus Tubbs Texas 21 DT Avg 16.67
    Roy Williams Texas 17 WR Avg 19.64
    Alan Reuber Texas AM (T) 24 G Avg 21.64
    B.J. Symons Texas Tech 22 QB Avg 25.00
    J.P. Losman Tulane 31 QB Avg 25.00
    Mewelde Moore Tulane 19 RB Avg 19.25
    Ricardo Colclough Tusculum 11 CB Avg 15.46
    Dave Ball UCLA 25 DE Avg 18.80
    Matt Ware UCLA 22 FS Avg 17.14
    Chris Cooley Utah State 32 TE Avg 26.78
    Matt Schaub Virginia 30 QB Avg 25.00
    DeAngelo Hall Virginia Tech 23 CB Avg 15.46
    Kevin Jones Virginia Tech 15 RB Avg 19.25
    Ernest Wilford Virginia Tech 19 WR Avg 19.64
    Tank Johnson Washington 16 DT Avg 16.67
    Cody Pickett Washington 19 QB Avg 25.00
    Reggie Williams Washington 17 WR Avg 19.64
    Jason Babin Western Michigan 22 DE Avg 18.80
    Lee Evans Wisconsin 27 WR Avg 19.64

    Aside from Watson's high score, which was a surprise pick anyways... it seems the Pats don't care if they take players with low scores.
     
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    Depends on the position. Check out the offensive line:

    Ashworth 34
    Britt 33
    Kaczur 29
    Koppen 28
    Light 29
    Mankins 31
    Mruczkowski 30
     
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    dryheat44 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Offensive linemen as a group score very high on the Wonderlic. I think Belioli have their own test they give potential draftees. To say they don't care about the Wonderlic isn't accurate. It's a tool like a 40 time. Just one more thing to take into consideration, but by no means a reliable indicator.
     
  4. rookBoston

    rookBoston 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    Kellen Winslow Miami 12 TE Avg 26.78

    Proof that the Wonderlic, taken alone, is a bad measure.
     
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    ? Winslow seems like the poster child for Wonderlics...the score of 12 is pretty indicative of his judgment to date.
     
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    mgcolby Woohoo, I'm a VIP!!! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I don't know, I think that is an accurate indicator of that moron's intelligence. :cool:
     
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    mavfan2390 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    I'd like to see the Wonderlic scores of starting QB's in the NFL, just to see if it ended up being an indicator of their future, (I'd also like to see Matt Cassell's, you know, the ext Brady :D )
     
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    rookBoston 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    I stand corrected. I was reading the table wrong. I thought the final number was his score; it's the positional average.

    So, you're right... he's a moron.
     
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