Claremonster
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How the hell do you even spend 30k on a dinner? What in the world are they buying?
Cocaine and hookers.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.How the hell do you even spend 30k on a dinner? What in the world are they buying?
Please don't use Dez Bryant as an example of how to look at finances responsibly. He's not the greatest judge on this subject. Using him as a role model for reaction to his money being wasted only diminishes the discussion.
"Hey, it's OK! The financially ******ed man-child thought that $54,000 dinner tab for the vets was funny!"
Dez Bryant went on a massive rookie spending spree
Dez Bryant's adviser: Dallas Cowboys receiver working on repaying his debts, 'in a dark place' - ESPN Dallas
18k? Please. That's like $50 for the average person. Those rookies don't give a **** about that measly money when they'll make it back in a day.
Yeah for a rookie with minimum wage, not a 2nd round pick who makes twice that amount in a week.A rookie spending $18,000 on dinner is the equivalent of a normal person spending 1.4 months of their pay on dinner. That's a lot of money no matter how much a person makes.
You're wrong, $18k is very significant. The base salary for a drafted NFL rookie in 2010 was $325k.
After taxes it's about 2.5 million, you might want to purchase a house help out your family put some away for a rainy day, it's not as much as you think it is and goes rather quickly unless you are careful.
Football players going dead broke in the nfl and the sports industry in general is quite a big issue. Asking a rookie to fork over 10-20 grand is disturbing and is a mentality that shouldn't be promoted imo.
I would think that the 1st rounders have the most to pay...
Incogweedo is an asshat, but, Martina is a big punanee. Both of them are 2 pea's in a pod. Polar opposites perhaps. Both of them you don't want on your team.
Don't forget that their are more expenses for athletes than just taxes. For instance the agent takes a 10% cut, the manager takes a 10% cut etc.
Is it 18k per rookie or 18k spread across 5 or 6 rookies?
Don't forget that their are more expenses for athletes than just taxes. For instance the agent takes a 10% cut, the manager takes a 10% cut etc.
The NFLPA's annual meeting of player representatives --not the most sympathetic group toward agent fees -- periodically addresses the fee structure for agents. The maximum fee has been reduced a couple of times over the years and is now at 3 percent of the player's contract...
...Agents cannot charge 3 percent for restricted free agent or franchise tag one-year contracts. The maximum for those is 2 percent.
Fee undercutting is rampant. Agents will charge less than 1 percent to entice a player to sign. Lowering fees has become a staple for agents seeking to gain business.
Is it 18k per rookie or 18k spread across 5 or 6 rookies?
Diminishes the discussion? The point, which I thought I made clear, was with hazing that which is acceptable to one person may not be acceptable to another. I don't claim to know what the right side of that argument is, but I also do not claim some paternalistic notion of right and wrong in how professional football players conduct themselves. My point was do not confuse what Incognito did with these traditional issues.
Neither you, I, nor anybody else who has not been a part of an NFL team has any clue of how those traditional actions are received by the individuals on those teams. Bringing the anti-dodgeball mentality to the discussion of professional NFL athletes, I suspect many of whom are supremely confident in who they are after years of athletic success, is something of a stretch. These guys tend to be trained to tear each others' heads off in physical clashes, and do not tend to whimper in corners when booed by thousands of fans who hate them and their teams. There is no "special trier" award in football. You play the game better than your competition, or your career is over. That is the attitude of these athletes, as described in every article on high profile veteran cuts.
And as for Dez Bryant, he is an adult. Many NFL players are not particularly bright. I seriously doubt there is much discussion of social darwinism, Friedrich Nietzsche, or natural law theory in the lockerroom. And in the event you missed it, professional sports and entertainment generally are rife with individuals frittering away millions on expenses that have nothing to do with dinners. Antoine Walker didn't spend $110 million on rookie dinners. T.O.? $80 million to nothing in a career. Dez Bryant is not unique in his spending habits, so let's not paint him as a professional sports anomaly and lament the $30k or $50k frittered away in an evening. If he wants to spend his money on a dinner rather than on another high end sports car, and he doesn't take issue with that expenditure, who are you or anybody else to question if that is acceptable under a paternalistic sense of propriety? If it doesn't bother him to spend millions, then it shouldn't bother you that he spends it. He isn't your ward, and frankly I doubt you are sitting there with $2.5 million in the palm of your hand at his age thinking "I would really hate it if somebody made me pay for a $54,000 dinner bill." The fact you preach sound fiscal decisions does not mean that concept means boo to him, and it is only when it subjectively bothers him that these traditions become problematic. That is when traditions become detrimental to a team and to individuals on that team. That line, as the military continues to learn, is very difficult to draw, and often means foregoing traditions that build comradery for some utterly forgettable substitute that few will recall and ultimately does not instill a sense of belonging to a unique brotherhood.
.....not to mention the tithe, brother Cat
BTW, the fact that everyone connected with the NFL has jumped to rationalize that "normal" hazing is OK tells me that there is a culture of widespread hazing in the the NFL, that it is accepted, to some degree, by most if not all teams. I don't think the lawyers at the league office are going to be comfortable with that, once the media glare has been shined on it.
The fact that the Incognito stuff is even more vile is not going to make the "normal" hazing any more defensible to a billion dollar industry with a lot of legal exposure...
just checking, but everyone knows the rookie dinner idea isnt unique to the NFL right? It is commonplace in the NHL, and NBA, and would imagine MLB as well. Whether or not you think it is extreme or not, its definitely not something that has been unearthed because of the recent Dolphin fiasco. Many of these stories come out as team building stories in newspaper stories, with rookies taking it on the chin as a welcome to the league.
Martin had to fork over $15,000 for the veterans to go to Las Vegas.
It doesn't matter how much it is.
When an Incognito extorts kids in grade school for their "only 50 cents" milk money it is wrong then too.
It's hard to believe that being forced to pay for $18k dinners is commonplace. How is it assumed someone, especially a rookie, can cover an unplanned expense like that? Maybe we'll be finding out more about this stuff.