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  1. Buchanty

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    Amusing snippet on Boomer and Carton on WFAN this morning. Carton expressed the belief that November 6th marks the day that starts the clock on the end of Mangini's reign as manager. He cited the fact that Mangini has ordered full practice for today on the Jets bye week, and believes that this will remove any last vestige of loyalty within the locker room. Everyone takes Tuesday off during the playing week, and expects 4 to 5 days off at the bye. Boomer pointed out that 7 days off did little for the Ravens last night.

    What started as a whisper with Vilma is becoming a rumbling in the local media, although I still believe Mangini has a Get-Out-of-Jail card for last season's overachievement.
     
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    Vilma is a non factor though, he never fit with the regime and there were talks of trading him during the draft and the trade deadline
     
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    It can't happen fast enough. Although having Mangina's incompetence in the division does make it a bit easier.
     
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    Meanwhile, everybody put your hands together for Romeo Crennel and the 5-3 Cleveland Browns!
     
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    I have to admit that Mangini has done a lousy job.

    I think he wins through gimmicks such as motivational stuff and video where he can expose a team's flaw. Give me a good gameday coach who will focus on using Xs and Os and focusing on the player's strength and weakness not stuff like that.

    The fact that he and his staff have failed to use Thomas Jones is an indictment of the bad job that he has done.
     
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    Funny -- what a difference a year makes.
     
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    i think even the pats are practicing today and taking 5-6 days off. Doesnt seem out of the normal .
     
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    The difference a good draft makes. ;)
     
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    I think today is just meetings.
     
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    I'm happy for Romeo and am glad to see he's started to turn that ship around.

    The rest of their schedule, and it's going to be a tough go, with 5 of 8 away from the Pound...

    11/11 @ PIT
    11/18 @ BAL
    11/25 HOU
    12/02 @ ARI
    12/09 @ NYJ
    12/16 BUF
    12/23 @ CIN
    12/30 SF

    I think it's very feasible that they end up with 10 or 11 wins. Best of luck to 'em!

    As for Mangini, I could care less at this point. I smile from ear to ear with every loss that gets put up on their board.

    Terry
     
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    The difference a good QB makes. ;)
     
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    There's no chance in hell Mangini gets fired, unless they are a non-competitive 1-15...They've actually been more competitive than an average 1-8 team.
     
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    The problem is that Tannenbaum is a close friend to Mangini. It looks like he and Mangini staged a coup to oust Terry Bradway and put Tangini in place. Will Tannenbaum pull the trigger on his friend?

    The only way I see Mangini fired is if Woody Johnson steps in and forces Tannebaum to fire Mangini. My guess is the likely scenario is that Mangini fires his coaching staff in the offseason (imagine Mangini throwing someone under the bus to save his own ass) and gets another year by claiming there wasn't enough aggressive play calling by his coordinators.
     
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    They play Pittsburgh next week. Last time, Steelers beat Browns with Charlie Frye (his first and only game).

    Steeler fans still think their team is among the elite despite losses to Denver and Arizona. I'd like to see them brought down a peg.
     
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    The Jets have the worst halftime adjustments in the league. That goes directly to coaching. Granted, I am betting that Mangini throws his coordinators under the bus on that one.
     
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    I will be rooting big time for the Browns. I am so happy for Romeo.
     
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    I think he is a factor in the fact that all the players see what is wrong with Mangini. He is not putting his players in a position to win. He has 4-3 personnel and trying to play the 3-4. Guys like Vilma went from rising stars to bust because of the scheme. If players feel that Mangini and his staff are hurting their career without any benefits with winning, guys like Vilma are very much a factor. Just like Pete Kendall is a factor eventhough he is no longer with the team.
     
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    "More competitve than an average 1-8 team". You know, I hear this kind of talk every year. Almost every team with a terrible won/lost record is "better" than other teams with a terrible won/lost record.

    In other words, even the bottom dwellers are above average.

    It's ludicruous. :eek:

    Or, as someone once said, "it is what it is". :D
     
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    Mangini isn't doing much of anything to change to a 3-4, either. In two years the only player he's added who looks like he'll stick for their front 7 is David Harris. Aside from that he's playing Robertson, Ellis and Vilma out of position and he's brought in Kenyon Coleman who doesn't make any sense on that team either. In other words, after 2 years David Harris is the only member of that front 7 who should be playing a 3-4.
     
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