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  1. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    The game plan was working brilliantly on offense. Limiting Mannings touches by dominating TOP. Only the defense couldn't back a conservative offense in part because they were essentially handcuffed.

    Players make mistakes. The Gaffney whiff was no worse than some of Randy's earlier this season. Thomas likely didn't know the play was over on his late hit penalty.

    This one is on Bill, square. Particularly poor game management. Took the legs out from under the offense on 4th and less than a yard - they converted on a play he negated with a needless TO. That play all by itself almost guarantees a 1 point lead down the stretch. Much like those coaches we knock here for icing the kicker only to negate a miss and end up with one right down the pipe on the second try. Third quarter 3rd down conversion Manning had several seconds to find a receiver and we had a perfect shot at blitzing him into the field turf and just said no...

    The good news/bad news is they should have won if they hadn't uncharacteristically beat themselves, and the HC even more uncharacteristically had a hand in that.
     
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    The coaches played scared and not the team, thats what i came away with.Not one of the best moments for Mcdaniels and BB.
     
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    I can't agree with you on this. The team was moving that ball well and on there way to a score, but a boneheaded fouled it up for us.
     
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    I have to agree with this completely. You don't beat Indy in Indy with field goals and to waste our last time out on that 4th and goal to chicken out and kick the field goal was a brutal error on two fronts.
    I liked how the team played tonight. I did not like the coaching!
     
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    Most of the issues are related to sloppiness and lack of attention to detail on the offense... which is the offensive coordinator's responsibility.
     
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    BB looked like he wanted to crawl in a hole during the postgame. He lost the game tonight. He better pray nightly that Brady comes back.
     
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    Agree with that.

    At times, Cassel was better than he has been before. Looking to keep that improvement. Game we should have won, but the loss wasn't due to glaring weaknesses. Coaching and player blunders did us in. We shouldn't expect those next week.
     
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    It was two friggin plays. Otherwise, the offense was methodical and efficient. You cannot blame the OC for one dropped pass and one penalty. If the Pats were missing assignments, having a lot of penalties, not converting third downs, then you can throw it on the OC. A handful of plays are not the OC's fault.

    I know you hate the guy. But please don't tread on NEM's ground of irrational hatred where you blame him for everything and credit him for nothing.
     
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    Wake up?

    It's 5:45 AM in Europe. I haven't even slept yet. :)

    But I agree the majority what you said.
     
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    How about the defense that gave Manning 5 seconds all night?
     
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    No they aren't. This organization is all about something many of you don't grasp - personal accountability. Gaffney and Thomas are responsible for their own mistakes, one physical and the other mental. Bill is also responsible for his mistakes too. And tonight he made a couple of costly ones. 4th and less than a yard you either go for it or you don't. But to get it and then negate it while using your last TO (because you blew one already on a bad challenge). And worse yet to essentially throw the guy up in the box under the bus twice - what did Polian do, spike Ernie's coca-cola so he couldn't count or measure??

    Sometimes Bill gets too cute. Not often and usually the team recovers but tonight they couldn't.
     
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    Good post. Mcdaniels called a good game. We lost 4 points from the Gaffney drop, at least 3 from the Thomas foul, and potentially 4 from BB's bonehead timeout to negate a 1st and goal. That's 7-11 points taken away that McDaniels had no control over.

    BB had a bad night, it happens. We played good enough to win but the stars were aligned for Indy.... EVERYTHING went their way tonight. Game was decided on a penalty. Time to move on to Buffalo next week, huge game.
     
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    This game is on Thomas period. You cant take a 15 yard personal foul in that situation. That's was the bone head of all bone head moves by Thomas. Completely unforgivable.
     
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    You do not make a call like that on Thomas in a game that close. One that has been a very low penalty game and cause that kind of a swing.

    No one got hurt. No fan would have been able to say that thier team deserved the advantage that call created.

    So why would it be called.

    Unecessary Call!! There are always crazy calls when we and other teams play the Colts.

    That call doesn't happen. Pats win most likely.

    Call it what it is.
     
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    thats total crap. he did it right in front of the ref. Thomas screwed up. blaming the refs is weak.
     
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    He negated a fumble. If you watch the play again, they run the play and the ball flies out before he was down.
     
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    Why?? Cause people will find out he can't coach and it's been Brady all along?? Please. BB has this team at 5-3 WITHOUT Brady. Yeah in retrospect I'm sure he wished he didn't call that time out, but coaches and players occasionally F things up. This team was a Gaffney drop away from beating the Colts, who still have their MVP quarterback, in Indy. BB is fine.
     
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    Uncharacteristically bad game by BB. Pats beat themselves tonight, plain and simple. One of the most frustrating games I've ever seen this team play. And I hate the damn Colts more than ever.
     
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    ernie adams had a bad game...
     
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    Agreed.
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