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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It's excessive. He said he didn't know the `switch` was wrapping around the kids legs and he felt bad about it. I don't mention that to defend his actions, but to point out that that could very well mean the extent of the kids welts and bruises were accidental. That doesn't mean it isn't still a Police matter, and that he should suffer the consequences of the law, because we pay in life for our accidents, especially the ones with horrible ramifications, but it also doesn't necessarily mean he was raising the Texas Chainsaw massacre family in his `whoopin` room either.
This began with me defending a reflectance to rush to judgement based on allegations, a news story, and a lawyer's comment, and for me that's what it remains.
If anyone thinks I'm defending child abuse, they're completely wrong.
A awful lot of people think they should let the legal proceedings play out before levying any punishment. Then something as incredibly upsetting as this comes up and people want the league to act immediately.
The NFL is damned if they do, damned if they don't.
When I made my post there were pictures that appeared to be of a 4 year old's arm bloodied up because AP went old school with the lumber. Those photos were taken sometime after the incident (obviously) and they LOOKED pretty bad considering that time had passed and the wound had probably been cleaned somewhat by the time it was taken. (To me, on my monitor, in my home.) Kids are just as serious business as women are and, for me at least, the crime is just as revolting as the other one.
So it's a leap, but at time of my post, I thought the possibility is on the table, ESPECIALLY because of the timing. (From a marketing perspective alone, if that makes sense.)
This is the same AP that called the NFL slavery, had a child he didn't even know he had die in the care of another less than a year ago, and now this. I know he seems nice in interviews, but there's obviously some issues with the guy. And this would seem to demonstrate they're not "past" issues. I'm not saying he's a monster, etc. (I don't know yet- need to read more.) But there's now stuff you can point to in recent history that are red flags of past behavior that won't help him in the court of public opinion which is going to be hungry for more action from the NFL to clean up its ranks.
So yeah I took a kneejerk leap, but my thinking above justified my perspective. I'm just now signing on to see what additional info there is.
I will add to this: a 4-year-old child, boy or girl, DOES NOT UNDERSTAND that kind of punishment. That's the kind of crap that results in lifelong emotional problems. When I heard what Peterson did, I was upset. When I heard it was a little 4-year-old, I was livid. If Ray Rice's career is over, Peterson's should be over yesterday.I do not think Adrian Peterson should ever play a down of football in the NFL. His actions exceed the heinousness of Ray Rice’s, this is a 4-year-old boy that could not defend himself, and had no resources to help himself against a 6’3” 230lb football player.
Stop. You've been going out of your way to rationalize this horrific child abuse.
"Oh, I'm not rushing to judgment."
"Oh, maybe it's just a family matter."
"Oh, he didn't know it was wrapping around."
"Oh, he says he felt bad."
"Oh, it's a cultural difference."
"Oh, it's an accident."
"Oh, maybe it shouldn't have become a police matter the first time."
I've elected to believe that you've been trolling the whole time, because the alternative is that you're just vile.
No, but what you don't realize is the kid just committed a robbery, the cop thought he was just telling a stupid kid to get out of the road, but Brown thought he was getting arrested and was going to jail, as an adult for the strong arm robbery he just committed. He was already in fight or flight mode and fought the cop. That is what made him dangerous, being high obviously impaired his judgement.
When situations of any type arise, an awful lot of people think the NFL should let the legal proceedings play out before levying any punishment. Then something as incredibly upsetting as this comes up and people want the league to act immediately.
The NFL is damned if they do, damned if they don't.
No offense but that's kind of silly because legal proceedings can easily take an entire season - if not longer - to resolve. You'd almost be better saying "just give me the 4/6/8 games" instead of being suspended until the proceedings are over.Well I've always been of the opinion that if a player is accused of a serious crime he should be out indefinitely until the legal proceedings are over.
So in other words, you have no problem with a player losing millions of dollars even though he was found not guilty or charges were dropped or whatever and he did nothing wrong. Can't say I agree.If you are dumb enough to put yourself in a situation where you are charged with a serious crime then you deserve to sit out until the legal proceedings are over. If you get acquitted you get to come back.
Oh really? "Most" jobs in the U.S. will suspend someone with pay for the entire months (if not years) long legal process? Bullcrap.There's nothing other than the f**cking greed of the owners stopping them from implementing a 'get in trouble, you're suspending /with/ pay until it's resolved'. That's the standard for any number of other jobs in the US.
I was unaware of his texts when I posted this, I was going off of what was said by the person I was responding to. Obviously these texts are damning.You mean the "appearances" of his OWN TEXT MESSAGES????????
I will add to this: a 4-year-old child, boy or girl, DOES NOT UNDERSTAND that kind of punishment. That's the kind of crap that results in lifelong emotional problems. When I heard what Peterson did, I was upset. When I heard it was a little 4-year-old, I was livid. If Ray Rice's career is over, Peterson's should be over yesterday.
Yeah. That's a little excessive. I mean I got it with the belt and spoon when I was a kid, but nothing as bad as that. Those hits broke the skin while mine usually just left a bad sting or a minor welt at the worst.Wow, looking at those pics and texts. Unreal.
That kid didn't get spanked. He got beat.
Stop. You've been going out of your way to rationalize this horrific child abuse.
"Oh, I'm not rushing to judgment."
"Oh, maybe it's just a family matter."
"Oh, he didn't know it was wrapping around."
"Oh, he says he felt bad."
"Oh, it's a cultural difference."
"Oh, it's an accident."
"Oh, maybe it shouldn't have become a police matter the first time."
I've elected to believe that you've been trolling the whole time, because the alternative is that you're just vile.
Yeah. That's a little excessive. I mean I got it with the belt and spoon when I was a kid, but nothing as bad as that. Those hits broke the skin while mine usually just left a bad sting or a minor welt at the worst.
EDIT: All that said, growing up in the south, I know a few kids that got hit with switches before by their parents. It's a popular type of discipline down here. But I didn't know any kids that got it that excessively.