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  1. mgteich

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    Wow, one set of playoff games and Flacco is a top QB, gets the best contract in the league and gets the praise of DI.

     
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    Flacco's been in the playoffs every year of his career. No QB in NFL history has more road playoff wins than he does, and he's won at least one playoff game in every playoff season. I don't think he's an elite QB, and I think his defense carried an awful lot of the load, but I was comparing him to Romo, not Brady/Rodgers/Brees. Romo's only made the playoffs in 3 of his 7 seasons, and he's only won one playoff game.
     
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    I'm not sure about wanting Romo over Flacco myself, but I do agree with everything that you said. Romo is definitely in the top 10-12-14 QB's in the league, and the deals these days are going to be quite similar.
     
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    He has the same agent as Elvis Dumerville. He'll be fine.:bricks:
     
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    Wow. A thread about Tony Romo getting over paid and Dues manages to turn into a thread about the EVIL, MONEY_GRUBBING PATRIOTS.

    Dues, Do you need some cheese to go with that whine?
     
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    You lost me. Is Wes Welker or Danny Amendola the choke artist?

    (JK, KontradictioN, I know you meant Romo. And thanks for interrupting another Welker thread and getting it back on track.)
     
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    Or, you realize Romo hasn't done crap for you the last 7 years, and he most likely won't for the next 7, so you trade him. You endure a year of crap, and then enter a very rich QB draft class with two franchise QBs. 21 year old Johnny Football in Big D or 34 year old choke artist, hmm...

    None of these GMs can think longterm, Cowboys won't sniff a lombardi for 7 years now. :)
     
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    I don't think any GM in their right mind would choose Romo over Flacco. Romo might put up better stats but, Flacco wins playoff games one way or another and Romo finds ways to lose games. Not ready to dub Flacco an elite QB could be Eli 2.0 but I'd feel a lot better paying him than Romo. Who knows, maybe Romo will get it together one year I'd just rather not be on the hook for 6 years. I wonder how hard it would be for them to cut him down the road. McNabb got a big deal from the skins but barely saw any of the money.
     
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    Romo had Jones over a barrel.

    The Cowboys were down to a few thousand in cap space; the only way to free it up was to restructure Romo's deal.

    There were no perceived QB alternatives in the Draft and no established starters in FA or being dangled as trade bait.

    Romo demanded to be paid for doing Jones the "favor" of restructuring.

    Before we go all Holier than Thou on Romo, let's all remember that the NFL is, first and foremost, a business and not everyone has a wife pulling down $30 or $40 mill a year to cushion the blow from taking one for the team.

    Just to be clear, I have never been a fan of Tony Romo, don't particularly like the way he comes across in public and don't think he would be worth this money in the open market.

    But this wasn't an "open market" transaction . It was a deal that Jones felt he had to make and, therefore, for this narrow window, Romo was, at this time, "worth it" to Jones, which, in this instance, redefined the "market."

    You win some, you lose some. In this case, Romo won and Jones lost.
     
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    You didn't bother reading the thread, I see...
     
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    Romo's contract - as well as Flacco's an Rodger's likely deal - just makes me appreciate what we fans all have in Tom Brady as the QB for his team.

    ... and it makes me shudder at the thought of his retirement and what it will cost to sign the next franchise QB
     
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    the Cowboys giving Romo this deal is just absurd....the guy has barely even been able to lead his team to the PLAYOFFS

    each year its usually the same story...cowboys start out the season playing well...the media talks about if Romo is "elite" then come december he starts choking away games. finally it comes down to a last game and sure he gets 500yards, 4tds but he also throws 5interceptions to throw it away...
     
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    Here's the thing though, they had 2 choices...one was to pay him a market rate for any QB in the league right now (17 million aav), not to mention the ridiculous prices of the future. Tell me what you think when you see Matthew Stafford's or Matt Ryan's deals coming up.

    The other option was to start over with a low priced rookie QB with absolutely no experience in the NFL whatsoever, and try to re-start everything. I'm not sure why anyone would do that due to the fact that Romo has his team in competition for a playoff spot every single year. They need to build around him, not start over.

    And as much as I agree with you that he's not elite by any means, he does belong in the 2nd/3rd (much more towards the 3rd in my opinion) tier of NFL QB's, which puts him in the top 10-12 in the league.

    It isn't about Romo's talents or lack thereof, it's much more about the current cost of a QB in today's NFL. This is nothing more than the average deal that we'll be seeing for just about everyone of any worth at 17 million aav.
     
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    As much as I always appreciate your thoughts PFS74, I personally tend to disagree on some of them in this instance. For one thing here are Romo's stats (as much I will definitely agree that he has tended to be a choke artist and needs to make better decisions):

    W/L---55/38 winning percentage of 60% of the time

    QB rating career in 7 seasons---95.6 QBR

    TD to INT 2/1 (his biggest problem..the untimely INT, but still an average 2 to 1)

    Career completion rate--64.7 %

    These aren't exactly the kind of stats that scream "JaMarcus Russel," "Ryan Fitzpatrick," or "Mark Sanchez" at you. These are the kinds of stats that certainly qualify for an NFL status of 2nd--3rd tier of top Quarterbacks. The fact that he's proven to be able to score points and lead his team to a consistent competitor for a playoff berth pretty much justifies the new AAV of 17 million a year for QB's of this caliber. We're going to continue to see these ranges of 17-18-19 million AAV for QB's who have done even LESS than Tony Romo, so we'd better get used to it. It really isn't Tony Romo himself, but the whole shock factor that an "average QB" is now making 17 million a year that should be shocking people. The problem is that this is now acceptable market value for QB's in this range. We're also going to see much worse QB's making 15-16 million AAV in the future. It's just the way that it is now.

    And, unfortunately my wife is a Cboys fan, so I end up hearing about them a bit too much. Romo and Jerry Jones have been discussing an extension for at least a season and a half now, so this is not exactly news. You can do a quick google search and see that they were discussing an extension pretty heavily from around the NFL owners meetings on, which occurred after FA started.

    The Cowboys could have done a lot of other things from cutting the joke that is backup OL Doug Free at a 10 million dollar cap hit this year, to cutting Miles Austin (or forcing him to take a pay cut), or choosing to either pass on OR extend Anthony Spencer to clear up any cap space that they deemed "needed," instead of choosing to tag him 2 yrs in a row for an 11 million dollar hit. There were indeed more options available. They have been saying since before the FA period that they were heavy players last off-season and were not going into the mindset that they were going to be heavy-players 2 yrs in a row. There actually weren't even any negotiations with Romo until after FA had already started, which leads one to believe that they weren't as bent over the barrel as you may be seeing it, despite their low salary cap space..otherwise, they would have started negotiations earlier and/or decided to choose some other options in terms of potentially freeing up cap space. It seems that they simply decided in some form that they weren't going to compete in the FA period very much this year, just the same as PIT, NYG, and many other teams.

    Of course there may be truth in both of our opinions, and we'll likely never know the difference, but I'm not seeing 17 million AAV as that big of a deal for today's QB in the NFL. It seems like many are trying to make this out to be a "Mark Sanchez" type of piss poor signing. It was either continue on with their QB who has a career rating of 95.6 and constantly has them competing for a playoff berth in the last week or two of the season or WC round, or choose to start over again with an unproven rookie.

    I'm not sure about one side losing and the other winning etc, or anything about "having someone over a barrel," but I respect your thougts and opinion.
     
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