Three Final Choices on a 49 man roster

[mgteich]

THE 49 MAN ROSTER (46 safe)
49 is really all we need. The bottom four positions can be used for various purposes such as special teams, depth, development and injury. The Shadow Roster and the Practice Squad can help out for these functions. There is plenty of room for pickups if pioli so wishes. I don't the picks any tougher than in previous years.

OFFENSE (22) 20 safe
2 QB, 4 RB, 4 TE, 4 WR, 8 OL
(WR's are Branch or replacement fa,Jackson,Brown,Caldwell)
#4 RB spot Evans vs. Cobbs
#8 OL Spot Stevenson vs. Britt
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DEFENSE (24) 23 safe
6 DL, 9 LB, 9 DB
starting 3 DL's plus Green, Wirght and Sullivan now seem safe
starting 4 LB's plus Bruschi plus Sters Izzo, Davis and Gardner seem safe
starting 4 db's plus Hawkins, Sanders, Gay, Chad Scott and Andrews safe

#9 LB - Chad Brown vs. Mincey vs. Woods vs Alexander vs. Klecko vs. Beisel
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SPECIALISTS (3) 3 safe
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FURTHER ASSUMPTIONS
IR Mitchell, Hill
PUP Pass
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WE STILL HAVE MORE ROSTER SPOTS - CHOOSE FOUR
a 10th DB (I'm counting Andrews in the 9)
a 7th DL
a 10th LB / Ster
an 11th LB / Ster
a 9th OL
a 5th WR
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MY CURRENT CHOICES
Britt (over Stevenson; OT's are critical)
Evans (over Cobbs)
Chad Brown (an experienced backup OLB)

#50 DB Poteat (over Warfield)
#51 Stone (over Childress)
#52 Besiel (over Alexander)
#53 Klecko (over Thomas)

PRACTICE SQUAD (the 8 that make it through waivers)
Cobbs
Stevenson
Hand
Bramlett
Smith
Woods
Mincey
Thomas
Childress or another WR

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

THE 49 MAN ROSTER (46 safe)
49 is really all we need. The bottom four positions can be used for various purposes such as special teams, depth, development and injury. The Shadow Roster and the Practice Squad can help out for these functions. There is plenty of room for pickups if pioli so wishes. I don't the picks any tougher than in previous years.

OFFENSE (22) 20 safe
2 QB, 4 RB, 4 TE, 4 WR, 8 OL
(WR's are Branch or replacement fa,Jackson,Brown,Caldwell)
#4 RB spot Evans vs. Cobbs
#8 OL Spot Stevenson vs. Britt
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DEFENSE (24) 23 safe
6 DL, 9 LB, 9 DB
starting 3 DL's plus Green, Wirght and Sullivan now seem safe
starting 4 LB's plus Bruschi plus Sters Izzo, Davis and Gardner seem safe
starting 4 db's plus Hawkins, Sanders, Gay, Chad Scott and Andrews safe

#9 LB - Chad Brown vs. Mincey vs. Woods vs Alexander vs. Klecko vs. Beisel
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SPECIALISTS (3) 3 safe
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FURTHER ASSUMPTIONS
IR Mitchell, Hill
PUP Pass
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WE STILL HAVE MORE ROSTER SPOTS - CHOOSE FOUR
a 10th DB (I'm counting Andrews in the 9)
a 7th DL
a 10th LB / Ster
an 11th LB / Ster
a 9th OL
a 5th WR
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MY CURRENT CHOICES
Britt (over Stevenson; OT's are critical)
Evans (over Cobbs)
Chad Brown (an experienced backup OLB)

#50 DB Poteat (over Warfield)
#51 Stone (over Childress)
#52 Besiel (over Alexander)
#53 Klecko (over Thomas)

PRACTICE SQUAD (the 8 that make it through waivers)
Cobbs
Stevenson
Hand
Bramlett
Smith
Woods
Mincey
Thomas
Childress or another WR

I think Cobbs will be scooped up by another team if he is put on the practice squad, but I don't know how you could carry 4 rb's. So that will be a big decision.

I honestly think Bam should be on the active roster. I think he's made some really good plays and has shown good hands unlike Caldwell to this point. I know he's small but he has a nack for finding the open spots in the zone and he gets separation, again unlike Caldwell.

 

[Ceresco]

I honestly think Bam should be on the active roster. I think he's made some really good plays and has shown good hands unlike Caldwell to this point. I know he's small but he has a nack for finding the open spots in the zone and he gets separation, again unlike Caldwell.

I agree, I want to see what Bam can do on Sundays.

 

[Digger44]

I agree, I want to see what Bam can do on Sundays.

i dont see bam making it to the PS anyway. he would be scooped up by somebody as a project. i think he stays. we are to thin to see hi go. he has show some good flashes. he at least knows the system better than knight, jackson, and caldwell.

 

[JDSal45]

People really got to stop thinking Cobbs has any shot. I think because he is a running back, his good play against backups catches fans eyes more than other positions. What about the linemen who have opened the holes for him during garbage time? Will they be scooped up too?

Cobbs is a project at best. He has ZERO shot to make the roster. He may not even be on the practice squad, depending on what they think they need for depth at other positions. They may just tell him "look, go home to Texas, work on your leg strength, upper body strength, body fat percentage....(whatever) and we'll sign you in January and send you to Europe. We like you, but you need work"

He won't be picked up. There are scrubs all over the league who put up decent numbers running the ball late. And if he does get picked up for another teams practice squad? Oh well. Its not like its Reggie Bush or something. Check the NFL boxscores on nfl.com for other players putting up good numbers who are marginal at best thru 3 exhibition weeks. You gotta use some perspective. Cobbs wasn't even signed until May, weeks after the draft. He was not exactly a hot undrafted free agent.

I have seen some spark in the kid. He's done alright. He may deserve a practice squad shot, depending on how much room they have. He may not. But he has absolutely NO shot at a roster spot this year.

J D Sal

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Kory Chapman got signed.... you never know who needs a runningback

 

[p8ryts]

I think I prefer Alexander to Chad Brown.
I like Poteat
I prefer Childress to Stone
and I don't want either Klecko or Thomas

 

[AzPatsFan]

Kory Chapman got signed.... you never know who needs a runningback

Yes and Kory has rushed fro more yards in oen game than either Dominic Rhodes or Joe Addai in three games combined.

 

[NordicVoyager]

Cobbs is a project at best. He has ZERO shot to make the roster. He may not even be on the practice squad, depending on what they think they need for depth at other positions.

I very much agree that it is unlikely Cobbs will make the starting day roster this year. For what it is worth, BB hinted that this is the case in his press conference today as reported by Mike Reiss. If you read BB's wording carefully, BB said Cobbs "had" some nice plays and others that he "would" need to work on. As I read those words, I was surprised that Bill did not use the present tense of "will" need to work on. His wording sounded distant as if whatever needed to be worked on would be apart from the Patriots team. Perhaps I read too much into BB's wording?

 

[jczxohn1]

I think I prefer Alexander to Chad Brown.
I like Poteat
I prefer Childress to Stone
and I don't want either Klecko or Thomas

Agree but--
I'd keep Klecko just for pass rush. One critical area an injury or two would really hurt us.
Sullivan is Thomas' competition.

 

[All_Around_Brown]

MY CURRENT CHOICES
Britt (over Stevenson; OT's are critical)
Evans (over Cobbs)
Chad Brown (an experienced backup OLB)

#50 DB Poteat (over Warfield)
#51 Stone (over Childress)
#52 Besiel (over Alexander)
#53 Klecko (over Thomas)

mg..this is where we agree/disagree. I'd take Britt, Cobbs over Evans, Warfield, Childress, Alexander, and I'm a tossup on Klecko (but would probably keep him to catch a TD pass instead of Vrabes .

What have you seen of Evans, Stone, or Poteat the last few games that tells you anything??

 

[mgteich]

You take a most interesting position, that players should be determined by what posters see in pre-season games. So Britt is OK, and we're both a toss-up on Klecko.
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COBBS vs. EVANS
For me, Cobbs is a waste on the squad. He might be a change of pace back, but that spot is taken by Faulk. Cobbs might be added to Practice Squad.

Evans is a mediocre fullback. Evans has been on the team, is a veteran, and has done all that has been asked by bb. His blocking was OK, but not great. Many here are ready to make Mills our regular FB. I suspect will be inactive for most games.

Evans has shown enough to be the #1 fullback at the moment, and will either be replaced by Pass, or not, after 8 weeks.
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CHILDRESS vs. STONE
I believe that Stone was ahead of Childress before he was injured. The reality is that I don't want either. I want us to pick up Patten or another jag veteran. This vet will be needed in case of injury and to replace Jackson until he comes back.
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WARFIELD vs. POTEAT
This is the veteran backup who can come in at any point and actually contribute. Warfield doesn't seem to get the defense. There is no more time to learn. Poteat was our nickel for much of last year. He can be depended on. I would be fine if Warfield made the team. That would mean that Warfield has shown the coaches more than he has shown us.
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mg..this is where we agree/disagree. I'd take Britt, Cobbs over Evans, Warfield, Childress, Alexander, and I'm a tossup on Klecko (but would probably keep him to catch a TD pass instead of Vrabes .

What have you seen of Evans, Stone, or Poteat the last few games that tells you anything??

 

[rookBoston]

Offense - 19 safe

2 QB Brady, Cassel
3 RB Dillon, Moroney, Faulk
4 TE Graham, Watson, Thomas, Mills
3 WR Jackson, Brown, Caldwell
7 OL Light, Mankins, Koppen, Neal, Kaczur, O'Callaghan, Hochstein

Defense - 22 safe

2 DT Wilfork, Sullivan
4 DE Seymour, Warren, Green, Wright
3 OLB Vrabel, Colvin, Banta-Cain
4 ILB Bruschi, Seau, Izzo, Davis
3 CB Samuel, Hobbs, Gay
6 S Harrison, Wilson, Hawkins, Sanders, Jones, Andrews

Specialists - 3 safe
1 K Gostkowski
1 P Miller
1 LS Paxton

My next choices... based on merit:
45. 4th RB Evans << very deserving
46. 4th WR Branch << bet he will be with the team by this time next week
47. 5th WR Childress << has not disappointed
48. 5th ILB Gardner << has won the backup ILB spot over Beisel
49. 4th OLB Woods << looked real good (again) against Washington
50. 4th CB C.Scott << ST play, intangibles and positional versatility at DB

... my last three:
51. 6th ILB Beisel << I'm ready to cut him, but he still has value for the team on ST
52. 8th OL Stevenson << I choose him over Mruc
53. 5th OLB Mincey << Woods has looked better, but Mincey still shows promise

Keeping players like Poteat, Mruczkowski doesn't make any sense.

 

[mgteich]

rook,

Based on merit? Don't we have to put the best TEAM on the field?

For example, is the #8 OL really the #52 player?

Personally, I think we need an additional DB instead 5th OLB, who would be safe on the Practrice Squad.

In any case, the last couple of players are likely now playing for another team.

My problem right now is that I am unsure whether we have improved the special teams (another post!)