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  1. mgteich

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    Well, this is a bit early. But I will presume the cuts of Waldron, Urban, Holly and Taylor. I include Waters. There is certainly room to add an OT, WR or even upgrade at RB.

    OFFENSE (24)

    QB (2) Tom Brady, Ryan Mallett
    RB (5) Stevan Ridley, Danny Woodhead, Brandon Bolden, Jeff Demps, Shane Vereen
    WR (4) Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Julian Edelman, Matthew Slater
    TE (4) Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Daniel Fells, Visanthe Shiancoe
    C (2) Dan Connolly, Ryan Wendell
    G (3) Logan Mankins, Brian Waters, Donald Thomas
    T (4) Nate Solder, Sebastian Vollmer, Marcus Cannon, Nick McDonald
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    I know theres still Hernandez and Gronkowski but man the WR depth is so bad, its feeling like 2009 where Julian Edelman was the 3rd WR and thats not good. If Lloyd doesn't work out well or gets injured, the offense is basically vulnerable. Just jam the receivers like the Jets did in 2010 and Brady plays like crap.
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    Shiancoe was reported released a few hours ago.

    I wouldn't assume anything.
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    Holley and Taylor wont both be cut unless another WR is signed.
    Bolden and/or Shiancoe seem to still be in the danger zone
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    well how bout bill belichcik and nick caserio stop acting like mike tannenbum... and stop handcuffing tom brady.. yes we have 2 great tight ends.. and brandon lloyd is a upgrade over ocho stinko.. but come on.. i was not happy with deion branch as the only other option but when u cut him... wtf.... ok... bring back gaffney or work on a trade... 4 months ago we had this great wr depth now we are 2006 or even worse....
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    That smells like panic.
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    Shiancoe and Bolden made the cut FWIW...Holley and Taylor didn't.
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    Shankhoe is finito...
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    Could they cut Branch, just so tey don't have to guarantee his salary? I doubtthere will be many teams beating down the door for his services.
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    I, like some, am very nervous about what the offense will look like. However, BB and co. have been at this for quite some time, so I guess I have to give them some benefit of doubt.
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    Looking at that receiver depth chart makes me wonder which offensive lineman is going to be reporting in as eligible each play.
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    Either that or, maybe, just maybe, Edelman's actually made an impression with them. . . .
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    shanccioe who we did not see all preseason is here. but something tells me gaffeny will be back....
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    That would be quite an impression, seeing as how they've been trying to get him more involved in the offense for years, without burning down everything else at his position.

    I think they just cut some players they feel didn't deserve to be on the team Week 1. Branch can't beat coverage, Gaffney is currently in the tub, and Stallworth just didn't fit.
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    There was nobody of the caliber of Lloyd and Welker on the 2006 team. Add two TE's who are 10 times the threat of anybody on that team....
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    so what happens when the defense does not worry about the deep ball and just covers underneath... just see tapes of sb 46 and the jets game 2 years ago
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    Nobody worries about the deep ball with Branch, Gaffney or Stallworth either. Pray for Matthew Slater.
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    So, Edelman is our #3 receiver after all. Any of the Edelcritics going to own up?
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    Wow, just wow. We were looking to have one of the scariest offenses in league history. One that could potentially rival the 2007 offense. We were going to have to keep 7 receivers just to keep this depth and that was including a tough cut already.

    Fast forward a month and a half later. Gone are Gaffney, Branch, Stallworth, Ocho, and Gonzalez. There are some teams that would like to have those five themselves as their wide receivers.
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    I too have had to listen to the Tavon Wilson and Julian Edelman haters, for far too long. You were mistaken, get over it!;););)
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    I would feel more comfortable if we had one more receiver such as branch on the roster, but it looks better than last years. A deep threat is nice but I hated our running game maybe even more. Now that BJGE is gone, every running play feels like it has a chance to be a big run. And all of these tight ends have to help our running game. I just wish shiancoe had actually played a game in the preseason.
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    I suspect that we will sign a veteran backup after Game 1, but that player may or may not be active. In any case, I would not sit Welker, Lloyd, Gronkowski, or Hernandez unless one were injured or if a 3rd TE was brought in. The need for a 3rd wide receiver is only in case of injuries.

    It is nice enough to talk about Branch or Gaffney, and we could use the death. But we shouldn't delude ourselves. Lloyd is the #2 WR and the 3rd WR is the 6th target at best in this offense.

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    If Lloyd produces for McDaniels this year like he did for him in '10 then Lloyd will make defenses pay attention with the deep ball.

    Back in '10 Lloyd trailed only M Wallace in receptions made over 40 yards downfield. Lloyd also averaged a whopping 18.8 YPC in that '10 season. To put this into perspective, the consummate deep threat, Randy Moss, only once exceeded 18.8 YPC and has a career average of 15.6 YPC.

    If opposing defenses don't respect Lloyd deep I suspect they'll pay dearly.
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