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The Official LB Jamie Collins is an Insane Athlete Thread.

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    this guy really is a freak out there
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    Collins is definitely a boom or bust guy. It'll be interesting to see if his athleticism translates to the field.
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    ridiculous potential and he's on the right team to tap it.
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    Good God.....I cannot wait for him to lineup on either Jones' side or on the weakside and run at a quarterback.
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    Not to throw cold water on this, but contrast this with Tom Brady, one of the greatest quarterback this game has ever seen, but also someone who is absolutely not known for his athletic prowess.
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    Yep, I am still really happy Belichick didn't decide to make him a pass rushing OLB
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    At the end of the 2013 season, let's hope the thread title reads Jamie Collins is an Insane Footballer Thread.
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    Not sure where that came from but there is no comparison in the "explosion".

    VJ : Collins 41.5, Crable 28
    LJ : Collins 11'7", Crable 9'3"
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    Should have known that someone would have tried to compare Collins to Crable. Thankfully, Collins has a much stronger base than Crable.

    :rolleyes:
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    Ups. Heart attack serious ups.

    Also, why is the appropriate reaction to witnessing a poster-izing in person to spin around on your back?
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    Take a moment to actually picture it... :)

    When it comes to pass-rushing OLB/DEs -- not QBs -- long, quick, explosive athletes rule the day. The draft has delivered better odds with "workout warriors" like Clay Matthews & Jason Pierre-Paul than with productive but unexplosive players like Larry English, Jerry Hughes, Robert Ayers, etc. etc.

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...954832-pass-rushers-myth-workout-warrior.html
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    Which is why I expect Collins to be relegated to third down pass rushing duties to begin the year (possibly the whole year). Let him use his insane athleticism to contribute in those situations while he learns the more cerebral and instinctual parts of the defense (recognizing screens, zone coverage, playaction, etc). Down the road he has the potential be a good all around OLB.
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    Sounds similar to what some people were proposing in regard to Chandler Jones.
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    I honestly have no idea what to expect from Collins early on. Coming from the worst team in the country, he presumably hasn't received very good coaching to prepare him. Yet as a converted DB, he's not the typical raw pass rusher whose responsibilities in college never extended beyond "head for the QB with your hair on fire." And he did play every down.
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    Solder also. Maybe Collins is a "raw prospect" who will only be able to do one thing early but based on what we heard about Solder and Jones and then what we saw from them, I'll wait to see it play out on the field.
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    He's crazy athletic. If he can put it together at the NFL level and work on his pass rushing technique, he'll be exactly what the doctor ordered back there. At the very least, he should be able to improve our coverage vs. RB's and TE's over the middle in his first year out.
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    Crazy talent for sure. I'm hopeful that we'll see those skills translate to dominating performance out on the football field. Until then, I'm sure he'll be able to follow the instructions "get the QB" and "cover the TE".
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    Being a track & field athlete I have to correct this, sorry haha.

    Broad jump: Collins 11'7" vs Crable 9'3"

    LJ = Long jump which is a running start...I bet Collins would easily be jumping over 25' in this event while Crable might crack 20' based on their broad jumps
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    Exactly, which is why I pretty much ignore when prognosticators talk about how raw someone is. The guy's played four years of college football, this isn't Okoye we're talking about. I expect that he'll contribute from day one.
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    Your second sentence made me literally laugh out loud. Everybody must breakdance after a posterizing dunk.
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    But that what I love about Collins. His athleticism HAS already translated on the field. Its not like he's one of those guys who wins the underwear olympics but doesn't have the on field production to match it. On a HORRIBLE football team this kid had production stats that matched guys like Mingo, Jordan, etc, or in a number of cases BETTERED them.

    Key among those stats that I saw was he had the best "missed tackle" percentage (3%) in his group. That's an important stat. It says that 97% of the time Collins took off after someone he got him on the ground. That's an awesome percentage. True he may be raw in that he didn't get the best of coaching, but with 90 tackles, (a great number for an OLB) 10 sacks (with no one else to protect him), and 5 passes defended, he is a lot more than "just" a raw development project.

    True he needs to get about 15 lbs heavier, and a lot stronger. Its true that he needs to refine his techniques, or in other words get some decent coaching, but its also true that Collins is probably the most explosive athlete that BB has ever drafted, and he doesn't get enough credit for what he produced on the field. If he had played at Alabama or LSU, the Pats wouldn't have had a shot at him in the first round let alone in the back half of the 2nd.

    Now that we've all had a chance to go over his measurables, on field production, and grasp his potential versatility, was there anyone taken between 29 and 52 that you would have rather have taken? I was a big Margus Hunt fan going into the draft, and frankly had never heard of Jamie Collins. But now that I have had the chance to take a closer look, I think BB took the right guy
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    If you follow Draft Breakdown on Youtube, there's a few Jamie Collins' video's on there to watch, including the game at Nebraska, where he faced constant double teams. He finished with a sack (a good one at that) and a few tackles, but it was more interesting to see how he would handle an NFL-quality (or as near as) O-line and blocking assignments.

    There's a couple more on there which will leave you saying "wow", but I found the Nebraska one the most interesting.
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    Southern Miss may have been the worst team in the country last year. But, they are a pretty good program that made a horrific coaching hire. Ellis Johnson. Their previous coach left for UNC, Larry Fedora. They were 12-2 the year before and beat an undefeated 7th Ranked Houston team with Case Keenum for conf. championship at Houston the previous year. This kid isn't coming in from Ghana trying to figure out how to play football. He's a tremendous athlete who appears to have outgrown a couple of positions.
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    Hi there! Debbie Downer checking in.
    I remember all those "insane" threads about Patrick Chung we used to have here. :(

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