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I'd say we came a long way from the time and place below, a time and place btw that my parents lived in and I grew up in.

On May 13, 1955 this article appeared in Housekeeping Monthly magazine;

The Good Wife’s Guide

Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal (especially his favorite dish) is part of the warm welcome needed.

Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you’ll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.

Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.

Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives.

Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper etc. and then run a dishcloth over the tables.

Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.

Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children’s hands and faces (if they are small), comb their hair and, if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.

Be happy to see him. Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.

Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first – remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.

Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.

Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquility where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit.

Don’t greet him with complaints and problems. Don’t complain if he’s late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.

Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.

Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.

Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.

A good wife always knows her place.
 
What about people, men and women, who do think that there's a place for each gender and it might not coincide with your view? My wife and I decided that our kids would be better off with me working and her staying home to raise the kids, not the other way around or by us making more money by both working? I'd be willing to bet any amount that our kids turned out better off for it.

That's fine and it works for you and your wife. More power to you both. People should run their own lives how they see fit.

But don't try to limit other women's options because of your beliefs about what the role of women should be. Who are you (or yougotmossed) to tell women what they should or shouldn't do with their lives?
 
What about people, men and women, who do think that there's a place for each gender and it might not coincide with your view? My wife and I decided that our kids would be better off with me working and her staying home to raise the kids, not the other way around or by us making more money by both working? I'd be willing to bet any amount that our kids turned out better off for it.

The key point in this post: you and your wife made that choice. It worked best for you, it was what you wanted, so you chose it and nobody got to tell you that you couldn't. The people in this thread who think women have no business being in football are the ones going against that principle, as they're the ones trying to force their own values on others' career choices.

Nobody's saying women should be forced to officiate football games here. But for those who want to, and who have the necessary skills and have put in the necessary time and effort to be qualified for the job, of course that opportunity should be available to them. And if they'd rather stay at home and raise their kids, then obviously that's entirely their call and nobody else gets to make it for them.
 
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What about people, men and women, who do think that there's a place for each gender and it might not coincide with your view? My wife and I decided that our kids would be better off with me working and her staying home to raise the kids, not the other way around or by us making more money by both working? I'd be willing to bet any amount that our kids turned out better off for it.

What about them? You're entitled to your own socio-cultural views, but at the same time you need to come to grips with the fact that your views are not prevalent in 2015. Much like gay marriage: you may oppose it personally, but as a society we've decided that you don't get to impose your views on others when "the others" are engaging in activities that don't cause you harm.
 
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Wow, you're a real catch. You sound like someone with a lot of issues.

BTW, let me know when you want to compare service records since you've got everyone all sized up. I have no problem with sharing them.

Or, you can just give out some more manly dislikes...your call

Yeah, I kind of suspected I was going to get dissed by the "sisterhood" for "going there."

Fortunately, I don't give a good f*ck.
 
That's fine and it works for you and your wife. More power to you both. People should run their own lives how they see fit.

But don't try to limit other women's options because of your beliefs about what the role of women should be. Who are you (or yougotmossed) to tell women what they should or shouldn't do with their lives?

That's my point QM, I am not the one trying to make choices for other women. I never have and never will. For some reason, people like you are trying to tell the world what THEY should do. I'm not surprised that you don't see the difference.
 
What about them? You're entitled to your own socio-cultural views, but at the same time you need to come to grips with the fact that your views are not prevalent in 2015. Much like gay marriage: you may oppose it personally, but as a society we've decided that you don't get to impose your views on others when "the others" are engaging in activities that don't cause you harm.

Once again. I AM NOT DOING THAT! Never have and never will. People like you are the ones telling others how they should live their lives.
 
Once again. I AM NOT DOING THAT! Never have and never will. People like you are the ones telling others how they should live their lives.

No, that's not right at all. We're saying people should be free to make that decision on their own accord, and that you should respect their right to do so as it doesn't affect you really in any significant way.
 
The key point in this post: you and your wife made that choice. It worked best for you, it was what you wanted, so you chose it and nobody got to tell you that you couldn't. The people in this thread who think women have no business being in football are the ones going against that principle, as they're the ones trying to force their own values on others' career choices.

Nobody's saying women should be forced to officiate football games here. But for those who want to, and who have the necessary skills and have put in the necessary time and effort to be qualified for the job, of course that opportunity should be available to them. And if they'd rather stay at home and raise their kids, then obviously that's entirely their call and nobody else gets to make it for them.

Precisely, and I don't think you'll find me being critical of people on the opposite side of our choice. If anything I posted an old Good Housekeeping article that showed how preposterous the attitudes used to be concerning women.

You know, this type of attack is very similar to one made against a woman who made a choice to make a commercial during the SB a few years ago to speak on a subject that she believed in, and she took a ton of heat for expressing that view. People even fought to have the ad removed before it aired. That was the mother of Tim Tebow on her decision not to abort her son. I didn't see any tolerance for her point of view then.
 
No, that's not right at all. We're saying people should be free to make that decision on their own accord, and that you should respect their right to do so as it doesn't affect you really in any significant way.

I think that's a two way street that's much more uphill one way than the other. My wife liked staying home and baking cookies, and that was especially nice because she was better at raising children too.

Anyway, back to sports. I'll catch you later on the dark side of Patsfans.
 
Once again. I AM NOT DOING THAT! Never have and never will. People like you are the ones telling others how they should live their lives.

How exactly is JackBauer (and people like him) telling other people how they should live their lives? What exactly has he said (or even implied) that anyone shouldn't be allowed to do?
 
Wtf is this crap doing here?
 
How exactly is JackBauer (and people like him) telling other people how they should live their lives? What exactly has he said (or even implied) that anyone shouldn't be allowed to do?

I never said he did. I said that he and some others misconstrued my opinions to be critical of woman's rights.
 
Yeah, I kind of suspected I was going to get dissed by the "sisterhood" for "going there."

Fortunately, I don't give a good f*ck.

I wouldn't expect someone with the kind of mental challenges you have to face each day to be concerned with other people's opinions.
 
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