Tyler Faith
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Amen. I am getting into huge arguments over on the usenet about how boneheaded a move this was because of their very fragile rotation - unless you just come out and say 2006 is a rebuilding year (which is a ridiculous contention IMHO) and despite what some others say, I was of this opinion the day they made the trade and I am not just acting with 20/20 hindsight.sdaniels7114 said:Probably not 'till next year. Getting rid of Arroyo for a guy who was clearly not ready for the big leagues (Willy Mo Pena) was a sure sign that the Sox are thinking a bit more about, 07,08 and 09 than they are about this year.
Are you kidding? .321/.370/.482 isn't ready for the big leagues? Wily Mo was great while Coco was out. We wouldn't be in first without him (and we are a half game up).sdaniels7114 said:Probably not 'till next year. Getting rid of Arroyo for a guy who was clearly not ready for the big leagues (Willy Mo Pena)
Sure we would - in fact we'd be better if we had Arroyo starting a few of those debacles that were DiNardo or Clement starts.Johnny Mac said:Are you kidding? .321/.370/.482 isn't ready for the big leagues? Wily Mo was great while Coco was out. We wouldn't be in first without him (and we are a half game up).
I think you're severely underestimating the offensive dropoff from Wily Mo to Willie Harris. Arroyo would not have started over Clement at this point, so his results don't matter. We've won 3 of DiNardo's starts, and lost 4. And we won on David Pauley's start. So that's .500 in games Arroyo would've started. I wouldn't have expected much different had Bronson been here, possibly worse with the aforementioned Harris playing.QuiGon said:Sure we would - in fact we'd be better if we had Arroyo starting a few of those debacles that were DiNardo or Clement starts.
i agree but thats not what i said.arroyo is better than any number five we have now and hes better than clement .thats all you need to know.who knows how many wins he would have but the rotation would be in better shape than it is now.BradyisGod said:Arroyo in the American league or the Red Sox doesn't guarantee you any wins over the guys that filled in. THe National league is ridiculously under talented, so you can't just bring Bronson's win total over the the Red Sox and say that's how many wins you've lost.
It wasn't a comment directed at your post. Just a general statement. I think I would be happier with Arroyo as well. But Willy Mo has certainly been impressive, especially in how coachable he seems to be. He was labeled as a free swinger, and he seems to have curtailed that quite a bit.patriotspride said:i agree but thats not what i said.arroyo is better than any number five we have now and hes better than clement .thats all you need to know.who knows how many wins he would have but the rotation would be in better shape than it is now.
Tyler Faith said:Finally we beat these bastids!! I think I pulled every hair out of my head the last few days!
Wily Mo has been impressive (until the injury), but Arroyo has been Cy Young caliber.BradyisGod said:It wasn't a comment directed at your post. Just a general statement. I think I would be happier with Arroyo as well. But Willy Mo has certainly been impressive, especially in how coachable he seems to be. He was labeled as a free swinger, and he seems to have curtailed that quite a bit.