Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game
Great
So now the anal-yst is doing anal-ysis.
Thanks for the tip.
So now you're going with homophobic insults? The mods must love you.
Here's a better idea.
How about like actually study the subject of this "conversation" and attempt to draw conclusions.
That's exactly what I did when drawing upon other GOAT's and making comparisons. If you want recent results, Favre is on there for the Vikings. But, regardless, they're relevant comparisons. The reason you want to dismiss them is because they're destroying whatever point that you desperately think you're making. Most Steeler fans tend to be like that.
It's much more pertinent than Bart Starr hanging up the strap
No wonder you're having trouble. You have no idea what the conversation is about, even though you initiated it. Let me outline it for you...
1. Claim: Safety for the Steelers that isn't even the best of the last decade will be easier to replace than GOAT quarterback.
2. Rebuttal: GOAT quarterbacks are not easily replaced, especially not as compared to top three safeties of their decade.
3. Evidence: Putting next year results of teams that have had their GOAT quarterbacks retire.
See how that works? That's the frame for debate. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect that same frame, only in the form of safeties. But then, I almost forgot who I was "debating" with. I suspect it's because you know that your argument sucks.
There is nine years of film on the Steelers with TP on the team with some having him play well. Some when he's injured/ not playing well.
What can one conclude.
1.) Absent TP, the Steeler's secondary is well...less than ideal. TP is the playmaker. McFadden is not a playmaker. Ryan Clark can cheap shot Welker.....
Lose TP and this unit needs a remake.
2.) The Steelers get accused of being old and slow when TP doesn't play well. Why is that?
Well, he presents alot of their playmaking ability and their ability to "play in space".
Lose him and the Steelers have to draft players to "play in space" a la' Chandler Jones.
This requires multiple picks that would have to be stockpiled. Something the Steelers do not do.
More evidence that you haven't the slightest clue about what's going on here. Nobody's argued that replacing Polamalu would be easy. What IS being argued is that replacing him won't be nearly as easy as replacing Brady.
Over the past decade, mediots have been dumbfounded how easy the Patriots hammer the Steelers. It's simple, BB understands TP. Negate TP, the rest follow.
That's part of it. The other part is that the Steelers defense has been based around the zone blitz. Nobody navigates that like Brady. It's also one of the reasons the Steelers hammered us last year. They suddenly went into a bump and run scheme and relied on their three down linemen to get pressure. It worked. And, because our horrid pass defense, the same defense that you thought was so awesome, couldn't get off the field, the result was utter domination that, because of a late surge, wasn't reflected in the final score.
3.) The same dumbfounded mediots also tell you the Steelers offense is "explosive". Explosive is great but that unit was 21st in scoring/ 22nd in turnovers.
"Explosive" except for the minor problems associated with not scoring much and always turning the ball over.
Even you should grasp that these types of numbers would not cut it with a degraded offense.
One of the problems that you're having trouble understanding in this thread is the definition of irrelevant when it comes to the conversation at hand. The quoted should help.
Now as far as replacing players. Perhaps this went over your head.
Since 2003, what other TP quality safeties have made into the NFL?
Who?
That's the point. Nobody is denying that Polamalu is a once in a decade safety. But he's not even the best safety playing this decade. That would be Ed Reed. Brady, on the other hand, is a once in a GENERATION quarterback. The stats are there. Go look at the top safeties in NFL history and see how their teams have fared after they left. I did my homework on that already. I'll give you a hint: better than teams that have had their GOAT quarterbacks ride off into the sunset.
It's simple: GOAT quarterbacks are harder to find and replace than all-decade great safeties.
Have any franchise QB's been drafted?
Franchise quarterbacks have been drafted, yes. How many all time great quarterbacks have been drafted in the same time period that you allotted me?
So the Colts are going to find it impossible to replace PM?
1. We have no idea if Luck will be an all time great like Brady is and will be. We don't even know if he'll be a Hall of Famer when he hangs it up. I suspect that he'll be pretty good, but a HOFer or a GOAT, I'm not sure.
2. This is the exception. Not the rule.
In your world, 2008 just didn't happen?
A couple of things helped the 2008 team:
1. Keeping the majority of the greatest offense of all time intact for Cassel.
2. Cassel not being a bad quarterback and a solid back-up.
3. Keeping the front seven stout.
4. The easiest schedule of the BB era.
What happened when we played good teams, such as the Chargers and the Steelers without Brady that year again?
