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    James Harrison - Pittsburgh Steelers - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

    The Steelers are missing a lot of leadership this season both on and off the field with Ward,Smith,Kemoetu and Farrior and now add Harrison to the mix with a likely PUP 6 week absence on the horizon.

    I don't think the Steelers are going to be a problem for the Pats playoff seed quest for a top spot..in fact with all these guys gone,they may end up on the wrong end of the W L column.

    Thats alot of experience and leadership gone.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    That's two prominent AFC pass rushers down, one for the count and the other for just a few weeks. The Suggs injury obviously benefits the Pats, as they play the Ravens very early on in the season. Harrison's problem could linger if it's already giving him trouble, and that could benefit the Pats in a potential playoff showdown.

    The Pats need to get a handle on the offensive line. Some don't seem very concerned, but I am. Mankins is back and practicing, which is awesome. Vollmer, on the other hand, could be at a crossroads in his early career. Those back issues that were so prominent in the scouting report on him persist. Many feel the G spot (ha ha) will be okay, but the T spot is one worth monitoring closely.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    I want the Steelers to destroy the Broncos on opening week, and then I want them to destroy the Jets week 2. After that, they can lose 14 straight for all I care.

    So here's hoping that his replacement can play well for at least 2 weeks! :eat3:
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    I'll drink to that.:eat3:
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    minor knee surgery..ill say 3-4 weeks if all went well
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Plus it's a new offense and the OL looked pretty shabby the other night.

    That's a team possibly in decline and needing to rebuild on the fly, maybe. It depends on how the aging process is going to manifest on the defensive side. They were pretty good last year. They are a great organization. They should be a tough out for anybody, but I don't see them winning that division. They could fall to third.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    I'm going to say it, wait for it, wait for it..... GOOD. That is at least a couple weeks he won't be trying to hurt someone who doesn't actually deserve it.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    That's just about every report that I've heard today here in Pittsburgh.

    They're saying that in a worst case situation he may not play for the rest of the preseason, but that he definitely should be ready to go for game #1.

    Even if he had to miss a game or two, I don't think it'd matter that much, nor do I think they'd put him on PUP.

    profootballtalk.com has the same report (minor cleanup, expected to miss 2-3 weeks)

    Not sure where rotoworld is getting their info, but I hope that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    He won't miss 6 games. Now if he hurts the knee again...he very well could. But i bet 3 weeks.. MAYBE 4 at the longest
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    I think the Steelers have some variables (some that you mentioned) that make them hard to predict this year. I certainly agree that they may be in for more of a "fall" than many expect--but I don't know how bad that may be.

    They very well can still win 9 or 10 games and be a very tough out in the playoffs with a WC spot.

    The AFCN is a tough division to predict, and there is some parity between the top 3 teams of PIT, BAL, and CIN. (depending of course on your personal opinion re: CIN this year. I do not see them making the playoffs this yr myself)

    I could easily see PIT winning the division still, just the same as I could see them going 10-6 or 9-7. I still think they are a serious competitor though, as they can be a very tough out at any given game. They are almost certainly a wildcard team at worst.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Exactly. I think that maybe rotoworld is just speculating that since he's PUP eligible still (hasn't practiced this TC), that maybe a setback like a scope job/minor cleanup can potentially put him on the PUP list to start the season.

    Now if it somehow ends up being 4 games (per your worst scenario) It would all depend on whether or not Tomlin would see more value placing him on PUP or not, since it would tie up a roster spot.

    Either way it's obviously something to keep an eye on, but most of the beat writers and local news reports have he and the team claiming that he should be fine to start the season--or at worst miss the first game or two.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    If there's one thing that people should realize about the Steelers it's that they always find a way to be good.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    My thoughts exactly. After the Patriots they are for me anyways the second best franchise in the league at keeping things going at a very good level.
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    You don't have to like the Steelers (believe me I don't) but I respect them for the very reason you've listed. Some organizations know how to win and Pittsburgh is one of those in the NFL.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    The Steelers have been going 2 playoff seasons, one non-playoff season since 2000. If the pattern holds, they would miss the playoffs this season.
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    I acknowledge that point and would also like to throw up they haven't had a losing record since their 6-10 2003 season. Playoffs or not, they should make life difficult for many teams.
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    I would certainly agree with this point, absolutely.

    The overall record and any potential slide from the PIT team is up for debate, as many variables are in play--injuries, age, the new offensive system, the status of Wallace, etc.

    Whether or not they would be a tough out is almost a given though.
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    Word is the Steelers really like the Robinson kid they picked up as a UDFA, and you know how good they are at plugging people in at OLB. And that D-line looks pretty stout with Pats Draft section binky Alameda Ta-amu joining Heyward, Keisel, Hood and ex-Pat Kade Weston.

    They'll be fine defensively, they always aware. Their biggest area of concern is the O-line, and although Adams sucked the other night, the kid has talent, and they look to be moving away from the massive Road Graders they've always favoured, and moving towards a more finesse type system. DeCastro will be the best G in the league in a year or two.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    At least 2 teams on average in each conference miss the playoffs after making them the previous year.....I think Pittsburgh will be one of those teams.

    8-8 for the Black & Gold is my prediction :rocker:
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    I wouldn't worry about Week 2. An emaciated Kenyan child could probably generate a pass rush against D'Bustashaw Ferguson.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Polamalu is the key to the Steelers.

    Their season will revolve around the four Balt/Cincy games and the AFC West games.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Here who's represented the AFC in the Super Bowl since 2004 (dates when the game was played):

    2004 Pats
    2005 Pats
    2006 Steelers
    2007 Colts
    2008 Pats
    2009 Steelers
    2010 Colts
    2011 Steelers
    2012 Pats

    See a pattern? Man. Only THREE teams have been representing the AFC for going on 10 years. Every year, the experts, desperate to be different, pick the Ravens, the Chargers, whatever. Nope, it's always these three.

    Now last year, the Colts participation ended, for at least a couple of years (Luck looks great.) And the Steelers definitely seem like they've got issues. But I'm sorry, until they "die" like the Colts, I see them as the number one threat to the Pats to win the AFC...not the Ravens, Texans, or whoever else becomes the popular choice this time around.
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    The problem is that they're undergoing a slow death. Father Time is quickly catching up with that team. Where we started re-building in 2008, they have yet to even really begin.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    That's true, but it didn't take the Patriots too long to rebuild and they were competitive the whole time. That's the luxury of a top-notch organization, and it's obvious that the Steelers fall into that category. People have been predicting the demise of this team for at least two seasons or so, but they've remaining highly competitive. I don't look for that to change.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    It will change when Polumalu goes.

    It will change very quickly.

    Infact, the Steelers will have a tougher time replacing him vs the Patriots replacing TB.
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    That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. The Steelers will have to replace a top three safety in the league right now. The Patriots will have to replace one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Yeah, I didn't even bother to respond. I just didn't feel like getting into a debate over such a ridiculous post.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Outside of not comprehending Patriots football, you can't comprehend Steelers football.

    Guess that makes you equal opportunity.

    What some acknowledge is what happens.

    The non dummies of the world witnessed 2008 and the Patriots went 11-5. You most likely didn't notice Brady didn't play that year

    What happened in 2008 is a fact that happened.

    For other segment of the fan base that benefits from watching football, a good exercise would be to watch the Steelers games when Polumalu doesn't play.

    At best, the Steelers defense is mediocre like 2009 and a six game losing streak......sans Polumalu.

    Who is in the wings to replace Troy?
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    Smart move not to respond since you are obviously lack the understanding of Steelers football.
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    Re: Steelers James Harrison undergoes knee surgery...expected to miss at least 6 game

    I also witnessed the Pats playing the easiest schedule of any Pats team in the Belichick era on top of Cassel being a top notch quality back-up with an excellent receiving corps and the majority of the team that had just went 18-1 a year before.

    So wait, you're saying that the Steelers defense takes a step back when they lose their top three safety? You don't say!

    Nobody is arguing how much losing Polamalu would hurt them.

    Does it really matter? In the end, there are good teams that lose top safeties that still go on to compete at a high level, even at a dominant level. Not too many teams have lost all time great quarterbacks and have gone on to seamlessly replace them within the same decade. I can think of about one team.

    In the end, it's simple math. Would it be easier to replace a top three safety in the league today or an all time great QB, possibly the GOAT? I would think it would be harder to replace the latter, but what do I know anyway.

    You have one more post to impress me.
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