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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I agree Riddell should be fined for concussions also
All of our boys need better gear to deal with the speed and impact. BMW has Collars for motorcycle riders that connect to the helmet and prevent brain and neck injuries sense 2005, why isn't this used?
BMW Motorrad introduces Neck Brace System
Pads could be implemented to surround the knee and ankle, to prevent them from impact or bending the wrong way. So we can limit the rules.
The reason the boys don't have this kind of gear, Im sure, is because of money.
It all depends on whether or not the QB 'established' himself as throwing early enough for Harrison to be liable again. I actually side with Harrison on this, and I think his past is being used against him in more than the penalty phase here.
As a Steelers fan, let me say this first: per 2011 rules, Harrison should have been fined, and his "body of work" warrants a suspension. I hope he adjusts, otherwise he will be gone. The NFL has altered its rules, and players should abide by them...pretty simple..................
Well thought out and decent thought provoking view.
The various fines obviously were not getting his attention. Perhaps losing him for a game will get the attention of his coaches and team.
James Harrison got what he deserved and needed - Shutdown Corner - NFL Blog - Yahoo! Sports
Harrison appeals one-game suspension | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Unpopular viewpoint...but...you are correct as far as I am concerned...McCoy WAS running the ball, he put the ball away and had his head down and then, what looks like out of the corner of his eye he spots the receiver..at this point Harrison is already committed and makes no attempt to conceal his intent ..that being a hard tackle helmet to helmet.This is where the rule breaks down IMO...how do you just switch it on and off? He's a runner and a 1/10th of a second later, he's NOT a runner...who can play within the letter of the law in a situation like that? The only solution I can see is outlawing helmet to helmet hits altogether...at which time Goodell may as well overhaul the entire league and transform it into a flag football league.
As a Steelers fan, let me say this first: per 2011 rules, Harrison should have been fined, and his "body of work" warrants a suspension. I hope he adjusts, otherwise he will be gone. The NFL has altered its rules, and players should abide by them...pretty simple.
But consider this: Harrison's tackle is the first suspension in 25 years (!) for an on-the-field tackle. The last suspension due to an on-field hit was when Jim McMahon was literally body-slammed, WWF-style, to the turf in 1986, an event that scarcely qualifies as a "tackle". Think about all the brutal, full-speed helmet-to-helmet collisions over the years that you've witnessed. And now think of all of the headhunting enforcers that the league and its fans have not only tolerated, but *celebrated* over this time. Repeat offenders, all of them. Ronnie Lott? LT? How many times did announcers salivate over John Lynch's "hard style" of play over his career? How many times have we seen players literally look like they might not walk (or live?!) after a brutal hit (Boldin's hit a couple of years ago comes to mind). By comparison, James Harrison's "resume" of hits looks fairly tame...yet it's Harrison, and this hit on McCoy, that garners the first suspension for a tackle in 25 years.
Let me ask this: as Patriots fans, would you define *Rodney* Harrison's style as simply tough and hard-hitting...or would you condemn him as forcefully as you would James Harrison? Are you proud of his tenure as a Patriot...or are you ashamed of it? Remember that Rodney Harrison accumulated over $200K in fines over his career, simply a huge amount in the pre-2010 era (when you typically didn't get fined $75K for a single hit!) As Patriots fans, I seriously doubt you would characterize his play as despicable--edgy, maybe, and maybe uncomfortably close to (or over) the line at times, but you wouldn't demonize him. (And for anyone who thinks R.Harrison's hits were any less egregious than James Harrison's, I recommend the following video, from the :20 - :60 mark, for a reminder of what the league has tolerated *without* suspensions over its history):
rodney harrison tribute - YouTube
My point is not to denigrate Rodney Harrison here; it's merely to say that that for 40 years, the league cultivated a culture that tolerated and even celebrated the Rodney (and James) Harrisons of the world--the feared enforcer, the guy who would walk (and perhaps breach) the line between legal and dirty.
IMHO I think you'd have to take a pretty narrow and myopic viewpoint--that is, one that encompasses only the past 12-15 months--in order to say James Harrison is demonstrably more villainous or brutish than the scores of similarly-styled enforcers since the merger. I don't have a problem with the fines and even suspensions; for the record, I think the new rules changes are good, and defenseless players need to be protected.
But I'm growing weary of the borderline sanctimonious and self-righteous tone that league officials, commentators, and even some fans have taken with Harrison's hits. It's like we collectively have forgotten what the NFL was like, not just 20 or 30 years ago, but *2* years ago, pre-2010, and what an abrupt about-face the league has taken regarding the very hits it has frankly encouraged and profited from throughout its pre-2010 existence.
You can argue that the NFL has evolved--and for the better--and that James Harrison is a knuckle-dragging dinosaur with no place within its new rules, and that he should evolve or become "extinct". Improved player safety is a noble goal, even if the abruptness of the league's emphasis mid-season last year seems suspect (my personal, cynical belief: the league's 2010 drive for a decidedly *less* safe 18 game season in a CBA year necessitated major PR initiatives for improved player safety). But never forget the fact that the league has spent most of its existence cultivating and celebrating a culture that encourages, rather than condemns, the type of player that James Harrison has become. The league, along with its fans, have cheered brutal displays of on-field violence from its players throughout its history, so it seems rather disingenuous to be suddenly horrified by it now.
Unpopular viewpoint...but...you are correct as far as I am concerned...McCoy WAS running the ball, he put the ball away and had his head down and then, what looks like out of the corner of his eye he spots the receiver..at this point Harrison is already committed and makes no attempt to conceal his intent ..that being a hard tackle helmet to helmet.This is where the rule breaks down IMO...how do you just switch it on and off? He's a runner and a 1/10th of a second later, he's NOT a runner...who can play within the letter of the law in a situation like that? The only solution I can see is outlawing helmet to helmet hits altogether...at which time Goodell may as well overhaul the entire league and transform it into a flag football league.
Harrison may have some dirty hits on his list, though some of them are questionable, I thought the hit on McCoy was fine. I'm also sure McCoy was faking in the aftermath to get a free injury timeout and an excuse to why he lost to the overrated Steelers.
According to the rules, McCoy had clearly become a runner and was outside the pocket. That means that helmet to helmet contact would not be a penalty at that point. He was running with the ball tucked until Harrison approached, and he then flipped the ball rather than making a normal pass.
James Harrison hit on Colt McCoy 2011 - YouTube
Harrison's at least arguably in the right here.
That's an excellent point…but I thought helmet to helmet is always a penalty, regardless of in or out of the pocket?
Also, no QB asks for takes more punishment than Big Ben…he gets the Shaq rules thrown at him. It is hard to let McCoy run around and then flip it with his head leaning forward AND NOT have some helmet contact.
One other note: In most instances, runners, including receivers and quarterbacks who are given enough time to turn into runners, are not afforded the same protection on hits to the head. It’s perfectly acceptable to crush a running back in the head with your helmet as long as you haven’t launched off your feet beforehand and as long as the runner isn’t already in the grasp of a tackler, with forward progress stopped.
In that video link that you provided, in fairness there were only TWO helmet to helmet hits shown....one was from side....but still not right. However, at that time they were allowed,not that I agree with that. Rodney was one of the hardest hitting defensive players of all time no doubt, but he led with body or forearm to accomplish this...all well within the rules (at least from your linked video, the other videos I have seen of his hits, and watching him playing here. He was a vicious hitter....but not gutless and vicious like J. Harrison. I appreciate your opinion though.....
This Piece of Sh#t should be suspended for the rest of his career for that vicious and gutless cheap shot he took on McCoy last week. You leave guys like Suh and Harrison in this game and they will eventually kill or paralyze another player. I wish both of them bilateral torn ACLs, PCL's, achilles tendons, and scrotal tendons..........