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    [edit: we're not giving that idiot what he wants by giving him web page hits]

    Couldn't have said it better myself!!
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    You agree with his character assault on BB?
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    BB is not a good loser. That's part of what makes BB tick and you're never going to change that part of his personna (see Bobby Knight) and I'm fine with it (see Pete Carroll) but Bill does himself no favors with his brusk manner after games.
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    Typical of him.

    It's so nice to have another article to ignore.
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    Trust me I'm no Borges fan but this is a very fair article and one that compliments the Patriots in many ways. As I said in an earlier post I think this team came in overconfident and that's what ultimately killed them. They didn't play with the ferocity they needed to for 60 minutes. They're only human and the 18 - 0 record and all the pressure and hype that came with it impacted their mojo.
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    Ya this article is greatly flawed.

    Realistically...everyone plans parades. I'm sure BB had no part of trademarking 19-0. If anyone is to blame it is the continual onslaught of the media. The Fins didn't have to deal with this to this extent.
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    You probably did and he just stole it.
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    Post of the day.:rocker:
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    Come on guys. Lots of our local media commented on how different the Patriots approached this SB week. Even BB was out on the town doing parties and there is nothing wrong with that but it's a departure from the way this team handled SB weeks in the past. Simply a coincidence this is the one we lost when we got outplayed and outphysicaled by a less talented team? I don't think so.
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    LOL that's a great line. :D
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    I wouldn't want him to be a happy loser. And I dont care about his 'persona'.
    I do think its assinine that Ron Borges feels qualified to judge his CHARACTER though.
    The last 1 second is a cheap shot waiting to happen, and guys like Borges who truly lack character jump all over it.
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    No, I'm sure you're right. I just don't want to read it. Lots of posters here made the observation already and I can look back and agree with them.

    I don't need Borges to tell me anything new.
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    there is truth to that IMO... they could have gotten away with it if there were 2nd half adjustments. but there were none.
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    Re: Ron Borges.......yes, THAT Ron Borges' outstanding column

    I have a question here.
    Exactly how do you judge from your television set the amount of intensity and 'ferocity' the team played with?
    Please show me all of the plays where they didn't try hard.
    Nothing annoys me more than those kind of comments.

    Just to understand, you think that the Patriots would have won the game if they cared more and tried harder? The Giants weren't out there making plays, the Patriots had everything they wanted but just didnt try hard enough to make the play?
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    Something was up with BB, all the way down to his red hoodie.

    One thought crossed my mind. If Matt Walsh actually has something on him, could BB be worried about getting suspended? Could that have weighed on his mind?

    I hope not but I just can't figure out some of his decisions and lack of adjustments. It wasn't typical BB.

    Was Ernie Adams out sick or something?
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    I saw a boatload of adjustments.
    Why is it that when they work, all anyone wants to talk about are the 2nd half adjustments, but when they don't everyone assumes they didn't make any?

    Blaming play calling, 'adjustments', intensity, etc is just a more politically correct excuse than blaming the refs.
    Suck it up. They lost because the other team played better. I will never understand how it makes anyone feel better about a loss by blaming it on something other than the players, or making excuse for them that they didnt have 'intensity' as if to say "We are really better there was just this one thing".
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    If he's facing a possible suspension, it's all the more reason to coach the game of your life. No? In any event the loss was more on execution than game planning, although neither aspect was up to the levels that we'd normally expect.
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    borges is a class A jackass.

    the article was pretty good.

    i don't know much about borges' character other than he lifted some stuff from a meaningless column for his meaningless column.

    I do know that BB has shown to have some character flaws much greater than not attributing some work.
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    Would you use the word relentless to describe the Patriots D? Or their O?? Would definitely use that word to describe the Giants D. Did you find it interesting that only after the Patriots got down 10 to 7 in the 4th quarter their offense came to life and they marched right down the field and scored after they had been stuck in neutral and hadn't scored since the opening drive of the game? What causes these sudden swings in momentum?? Emotion does. Patriots particularly on O played with little emotion until they got desperate when they fell behind. Anyone who plays sports understands the role emotion plays. The Patriots were trying just as hard as the Giants. Nobody who saw that game can honestly say they played with the same level of intensity as the Giants particularly their D. If they had the Patriots offense would have scored a whole lot more than 1 TD on the opening drive and 1 TD with 3 minutes left in the game. Don't take my word for it. Listen to Randy Moss.
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    Can we stop with the red hoodie thing? I'm pretty sure BB as worn red at the SB before.
    But I do agree it was not a typical BB game. Not sure why.
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