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  1. jmt57

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    Recently former Steeler Terry Bradshaw spoke about using steroids while he was a player, which not surprisingly was compared and contrasted to the Patriots video taping opponents signals. The comments here were somewhat predictable: a question as to why this didn't get as much scrutiny in the media as spygate; a few jokes parroting what Pats haters typically comment; and then a collective shrug, as if to say 'this is not news, no big deal'.

    I was curious, however, as to how Steeler fans were reacting. Strolling over to their fan site, Steelers Fever, was a rather eye opening experience. The first three pages of comments are ironically mostly the same lines that upset Pats haters when they come from Pats fans: 'everybody did it', 'it wasn't against the rules then', 'it didn't help them win', etc. What was a bit surprising was that the thread almost immediately turns in to a Patriots bashing - even though nobody was writing anything bad about the Bradshaw and the Steelers. It was as if it was a self-inflicted pre-emptive strike, perhaps to bait non-Steeler fans in with negative comments.

    After the thread turned in to a debate as to whether or not steroids should be illegal or against NFL rules, and no other teams fans gave the Steeler fans a hard time, on the 75th post of the thread somebody decided to copy and post comments from Pats Fans, take them out of context, and offer the opinion that Pats fans "are the least knowledgeable fans in football" and "delusional".

    Disappointed but undaunted by the lack of any fan from any other team to come in and say something negative about Bradshaw or the Steelers on their forum, an common enemy was finally uncovered when a Steeler fan responded to a comment about lack of intelligence in New England. First one moderator commented "Are you sure you are a Steelers fan? Quite honestly, you come across as a Cheatsies* fan". After defending her Steeler loyalty, a second moderator responded with "What exactly IS your problem? Friendly piece of advice here: pull the stick out, if you get my drift." This is the cue for other Steeler fans to pile on; first, "Any self-respecting, REAL Steelers fan hates the Patriots* with every fiber of their being. The end.", and then another accuses this person of not being a Steeler fan, but instead being a troll.

    On a side note, I did find it just a bit weird that somebody named Dino comments six different times that he loves Terry Bradshaw.

    Just found it a little bit strange that these folks were not only so defensive, but also so eager for an argument - yet at the same time intolerant of any even slightly opposing viewpoint.
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    Well, Pennsylvania is not exactly known as the braintrust of the nation. That, and their probably just tired of the Squealers having their heads handed to them on a silver platter everytime the two teams play. How about, despite not having "the use of cameras", the Pats still whooped your asses. Can't wait to see you next year. :rocker:
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    These folks were not only so defensive, but also so eager for an argument - yet at the same time intolerant of any even slightly opposing viewpoint=99% of the Steelers fans I know.

    Can't blame them for hating the Patriots; if it wasn't for us, they'd have two more Super
    Bowl appearances (2002 and 2005).

    The 2005 AFC Championship game is my #1 all time favorite Patriots moment; going to Pittsburg and pounding Ben and the Steelers, the team that ended the Patriots regular season winning streak. Deon's "bye bye" wave as he waltzed into the end zone on the reverse was priceless...........
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    It is called being in their domes!! I did not see one non Squeeler fan post in that thread yet somehow it comes back to the Patriots. Not to mention the need to come over here and see what we thought of the subject.

    In the poker room of life......Squeeler fans are on tilt......
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    Please don't ever link there again. Those were some of the dumbest "rational" posts I have ever read.

    I feel kind of sick for cheering for the Pens in the NHL Finals, now.
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    You know, you're right. After visiting sites such as espn, nytimes, or a steelers' fans site, I sense a lowering of my IQ that can only be compared to that of what happens to the brain cells of a professional athlete that risked his career in order to venture with neither a license nor helmet through a windshield while learning how to drive a motorcycle.
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    who cares what **** the steelers fans talk? just say "anthony smith"
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    What do you expect from a fanbase that drinks Iron City Beer on a regular basis. All they do is fill it with 1/2 polluted river water and 1/2 urine and slap a picture of Jack Lambert on it. What a bunch of a$$hats.
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    #24 Jersey

    I know it is not easy to route for a team as successful as the Red WIngs if they are not your home team but I could not in good conscience route for the Penguins after Ulf Samuelson :mad:
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    Amen to that brother!!! If I see Ulffy I will fight him......
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    Sorry, guys, I don't know crap about hockey. The last time I watched it before these past Finals was when the Wings/Avs rivalry was going strong.

    I was only cheering for the Pens because I have a friend who is a huge Pens fan. He's also a Steeler fan, but one of the good ones.
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    There aren't any good ones......not even one - Steeler nation sux. Their outright disdain for New England borders on the obsessive.

    Their comments in that thread are evidence if stupidity.

    I could care less if Bradshaw and that entire team used steroids back in the 70's, hell, a huge bunch of players were all hopped up on speed anyway. Big deal - it's football.

    Blocking and tackling and in the 70's they did it as well as we do it the 2000's. They were a dynasty then we are a dynasty now - filmed signals for scouting purposes or not.

    Stupid yellow towels, don't they even realize yellow = coward.
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    For the Record. I LOVE TERRY BRADSHAW!!!
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    Oh, and I am a real Steelers fan and I don't "hate the Pats"

    I hate the Raiders, hate the Bengals, loathe the Ravens, hate the Cowboys. I also hate every single NY Sports team. I don't hate the Pats. Currently I don't hate the Browns cause that's like hating the slow kid in school. Can't bring myself to do it.

    I do however hate all the one way streets in Boston. What a whip if you're from out of town.

    I like Kelly's. and loved Fenway when I visited.

    I still love Terry Bradshaw.
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    There's not a fanbase I dislike more than the Steelers one.
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    Really? Had a lot of interaction with the Raiders and Eagles fans have you? How about them wonderful Jets fans. Or those Falcons fans, yeah, winners the lot of them. And Cowboy fans are so humble aren't they, or even those Giants fans that switch between their Giants jersies and Yankees hats all week during the Fall.

    Ever met a Browns fan? Or a Colts fan?

    You can dislike the Steelers fanbase all you want, I just question your reasoning behind it.
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    I don't see what's wrong the Raiders, Falcons, or Browns fanbases. The other ones you mentioned are terrible too, none however are as whiny and bitter as Steelers fans.
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    LMAO! Whiny and Bitter! That's classic!

    Raiders are obnoxious, Browns are dilusional and the Falcons are depressing.
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    There were no Giants fans until February 5th. Then they were popping up so fast I lost count.
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    "or even those Giants fans that switch between their Giants jersies and Yankees hats all week during the Fall."

    Priceless; so you're saying New York fans are front running frauds.................lol, ain't that the truth, can't stand Giants fans.

    Don't really mind Steeler fans; have to respect the fact that their team have been winners for about 35 years, that is pretty impressive..........
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    Dino - nice to hear from the Greatest Fan In The History of Planet Earth! I'm disappointed though; no pictures of your Terry Bradshaw Idol and Temple of Terry? Ha ha, lol . . . Nice to know that there is a Steeler fan that doesn't hate the Pats.

    Just to make myself clear, I don't hate the Steelers either. (Though I did lose a lot of respect for Hines Ward, one of the very best all around receivers in the game, when he accused the Pats of cheating because the Pats defense seemed to know the Steelers play calls. That's called preperation and studying game film; the video taping was of defensive (not offensive) signals.)

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    The Steelers organization is very similar to that of the Patriots. A strong and stable ownership that hires quality management, supports them and allows them to make good football decisions, with an eye on long term goals that keeps the team competitive year after year. Perhaps it is a vocal minority, but it seems to me that most Steeler fans are irrational, close-minded and blinded by their loyalty - and that was the point of my original post.

    However, I felt that many of your fellow Steeler fans appear to be overly obsessed with their hatred for the Pats and Pats fans. As Double G pointed out, this is probably due to being blocked from two Super Bowl appearances by the Pats. I know it may be difficult to accept, but the Patriots deserved to win those games. Bill Cowher teams rarely excelled on special teams, and that was the difference in the first AFCCG. Roethlisberger's interceptions were the difference in the other game. Blaming it on stolen defensive signals is not an objective viewpoint and is an attempt to rationalize a shortcoming rather than accept the facts.

    (And before I'm accused of being a hypocrite, yes I accept the fact that the Patriots broke the rules. I accept the possibility that it resulted in an unfair advantage, but that is an opinion that is open for debate, and not a fact. The team was punished for the rules violation; end of story.)

    I do stand by what I said earlier about your fellow Steeler fans. The comments over there were rather defensive - though nobody had said anything negative, with the exception of one Steeler fan who received a threat from two moderators - and the thread turned in to a Patriots bashing - though no Pats fans had said anything. It appeared that the Steeler fans wanted a fight, didn't get one, so they went out and found this site, and repeated comments written here. With one or two exceptions, the comments here were very tame, full of dry wit and sarcasm. For example, ALP stated "no big deal . . . now if it were a Patriot..." - a very valid observation; yet the Steeler fan 'rolls his eyes' as if the comment has no merit. Bunzoburns joked that Bradshaw "looked pretty jacked up in Cannonball Run" and the Steeler fan takes the comment seriously. Those are examples of what I meant by 'being taken out of context'.

    Others have commented previously that this type of hatred is actually a compliment; it is a sign of jealousy and envy. In this case, perhaps Steeler fans are fearful that the Patriots will pick up a fourth and fifth ring over the next few years. Maybe that explains why the Steeler fans focused on the Patriots and didn't bother to see or comment what others were saying, like their division rival Browns and Bengals fans.

    Facts are still twisted around, something Pats fans have come to expect. For example, a Steeler fan quotes from this site first. Then, when I responded here, it is the Patriots being obsessed with the Steelers and not the other way around. All in all, I did not find the folks here pointing fingers at Bradshaw; the overall tone of that thread was one of 'no big deal.'

    Regarding other fans - I completely agree with you about Raiders, Eagles and Jets fans. Browns fans seem rather fanatical and Falcons fans seem to be badwagoners, but it sounds like you know a lot more about them than I do.

    Looking forward to November 30th. Hopefully we can have some intelligent football conversations during the week leading up to that game.
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    You want to know why I love that picture of Ward crying?

    Because it was part of the motivation for Bettis to come back for one more year and get his ring. I love that picture.

    See I think alot of the "hate the Pats" stuff does come from those 2 playoff losses. Historically, we are winning the head to head, have 2 more rings, have a long tradition of being a contender and are a solid fan base. Why be jealous? That's what I try to teach some of my fellow Steelers fans. If you are going to hate a team for losing to them, then we should hate the Broncos, hate the Chargers, hate the Bills, Hate the dolphins and so on and so forth going down the list of teams we've lost to in the playoffs. Its silly, but part of it has to be that its "new", that being the 2 losses to the Pats in the Playoffs. The Broncos loss was worse, and the loss to the Chargers, Effing Neil, hurt way more. I also try to point out that Brady only beat us once in the Playoffs, he was hurt in the first game when our STs got off the short bus and we lost to Drew Bledsoe, not Tom Brady. Which could be considered worse! LOL.

    Now I usually reserve my true hatred for the Team we are currently playing. So Right now, I really hate the Houston Texans. Week1.

    I'll talk football about any team, any time, college or pro or even local highshool football. I love the game. and I love Terry Bradshaw!

    as for being the greatest fan in the history of planet earth, now that you have seconded that notion, I will take it to mean it is offically true. I am the greatest fan in the history of planet earth. Sweet, now I can convince my wife that the tattoo of the steelers symbol on my arm will look way cool!
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    You're a funny guy Dino, I like your passion for you team, we all have it for our team, so good for you.

    Please stick around this year, especially for the clash between our teams, we need all the passionate/rational/funny fans we can get..............
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    Dino glad to see a true football fan! It is odd, it seems everywhere I go it is actually true Steeler's fans are the only other ones that seem to understand football. There is a gentleman on Corvetteforum.com that everytime someone posts something stupid about the Pats (or any team for that matter) he levels them out, and usually in a very humerous fashion! :D
    So do stick around good sir. :eat3:
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    Been to Heinze field twice. Had alot of respect for the fans there. That is until I got about 25 Bruschi "How's your head" stroke comments. Unclassy to say the least. Say what you want about my team but personal attacks on a guy who had a stroke is uncalled for. Oh and the parking at your stadium SUCKS!!! :)

    I guess a few bad apples don't spoil the whole bunch. Now Jet, Charger, and Clot fans take the prize........
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    Dino's about the only decent Steelers fan there is. The rest are morons like the people in that thread. I guess the only way to answer is for the Pats to beat them down again (and again, and again).
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    Thanks, except, I am kind of a moron too. You can try to beat us again, we'll see how it plays out. I'm looking foward to this season, we've actually made some changes that improved our team instead of staying the same. We'll miss Faneca, but I'd rather a young bull talent at guard over a disgruntled where is my money veteran. Have fun playing against the Jets offensive line this season.

    Week 1, the Texans.
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    "You can try to beat us again, we'll see how it plays out."

    The Patriots record against the Steelers over the past five meetings is 4-1, two of those wins coming in the AFC Championship game at your house.

    I'm sure the Patriots will "try" their best to beat you again...........lol..............you really are a funny guy Dino.
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    What goes around, comes around. Current series record is Steelers 12 Pats 7. At one point that means it was 11-3. Glad to see the Pats have "closed the gap" :D
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    Whether you hate their organization and fans or not, you have to admit that Parker and Mendenhall are going to be a NASTY 1-2 combination of running backs this year.
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