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    Heard this on Sirius Radio today and the only reason he has not been traded yet is the unfinished business with DeAngelo Hall but the Raiders will be shopping him around the league.

    Decent stats for the 4th year pro and maybe a possibility for this team,I could see us doing a lower draft pick trade or two for him who I don't expect that he will be asking major bucks.
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    He's always pretty good in Madden...

    I thought they were going to release Asomugha from the Franchise desination if they signed Hall, not trade Washington cause it would cost too much to keep Asomugha and Hall?
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    Fabian Washington is one of the fastest players in the NFL. If I remember correctly he had a sub 4.3 forty time.

    I think his speed is why he is good in Madden.


    I wanted him in the draft back than because of the speed. He has managed to show some talent for a crappy Raiders team, this could be worth a shot and shouldn't cost much.
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    Yeh you're right, that why he always develops at a faster rate than Asomugha in the game.

    I believe he ran a 4.29, not sure though.
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    I almost made a thread concerning this, after reading the fallowing blurb on Rotoworld"

    Here's the SF Chronicle article they link to:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/18/SPR2VLI22.DTL

    Knowing the Raiders, it would probably only cost a fourth rounder to secure his services, and he's still only 24 years old.

    Here's the notables on Washington:

    Selected 23rd overall in the 2005 NFL draft.

    Stats:
    2005: 16 games, 43 TT's (40 solo), 5 PD's.
    2006: 14 games, 40 TT's (39 solo), 15 PD's, 4 INT's
    2007: 15 games, 40 TT's (33 solo), 8 PD's, 1 INT, 1 FF

    Scouting report:
    Grade: 70 | Key
    Alert: B

    Comment: Washington has adequate size for the position to go along with excellent speed, quickness and agility. He has very quick feet when backpedaling and does a very good job of keeping his chin over his toes and his weight evenly distributed. He can be a little choppy in his pedal but still manages to extend the cushion well. He can plant and drive on the ball with top quickness and is unrestricted in his transition. He has a good burst to close on the ball and has the hand-eye coordination to make plays on the ball. He is still a bit raw on route recognition when in man off or zone but has enough explosive quickness to recover and maintain relationship. He has good leaping ability to challenge taller receivers to the ball. He is not timid about coming up to force the ball in run support but is not a strong tackler, although he will get the job done in that area. Washington has a chance to be a shutdown corner with more experience and work.
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/players/scouting?statsId=7199
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    STAY AWAY!!!!!

    I live out here amongst the silver and black...this guy is a bust.
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    So he wasn't great to begin with loses his job and has a battery but hey he can get us a 3rd round pick when all we could get for Moss was a 4th rd pick. hmmmm.

    3 is to high for me before I heard of the battery, I'ld do it for a 5th rd pick or maybe a conditional pick.
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    Would he be worth our (as in, 94) 3rd? He sounds solid, but at the same time, there are some good players that'll be available in the 3rd for us either at ILB, Goff, Bell or CB, Godfrey, Jackson.
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    I don't know about that. With the Patriots ability to coach up players, I could see them getting some return out if his top notch potential. Also, he's well worth a 4th, but I don't know what the Raiders want.
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    I'd offer then the Pats 5th round pick.
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    The whole organization is a bust, even effected a veteran elite WR to the point he could be had for a 4th and a couple of bucks plus incentives.

    Sounds like a BB reclamation project except for the domestic battery which remains a bit of a sore spot here depending on the circumstances.

    LOL Video gaming and fantasy football are the antethesis of intelligent football fans...

    Makes no sense to go for Hall at the same cost as Asomugha except as bookends, which is something Al DAvis has always coveted. They skimped on bonus money (the #1 QB got none last year - instead taking guarantees) and unloaded some expensive talent elsewhere on the roster over the last couple of seasons freeing up cash as well as cap. They also don't spend a lot of money on off field talent (GM, HC, staff, scouting...). It's all about Al and his vision of talent. They have more operating income than Kraft does this year as a result. So they can do some bonus deals and carry Asomugha under the tag or extend him to a cap friendly deal too. Al wants to win now because he knows he'll be dead before the long term cap mess has to be cleaned up by his successor owner.
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    Hmm, I actually skipped over that portion of the blurb/article concerning the battery accusations. For whatever reason, I only paid attention to the first part where it said they were "actively shopping" him, even though I actually quoted the entire thing... Sorry about that.

    From a pure football perspective, If he only cost NE a late round pick, then it would seem like a good option. Worst case, you wasted a late round pick on a player who doesn't live up to his potential, and finds himself on the chopping block. Best case, he lives up to that potential, and the Patriots seemingly get over on the Raiders, again. I would think he could at least be a good 3rd CB, and would be an upgrade over the 2007 version of Randall Gay, but those battery accusations could keep him off NE's radar. It doesn't say he was found guilty of anything yet though, right?

    Also, let's not use NE's swinging that trade for Randy Moss as solid indication of a fourth round pick's value. Remember, the Raiders thought Randy was done, and they just wanted to get rid of him. That was also pick 110 overall, and NE's 2008 fourth rounder comes at the tail end of the round.

    I also wouldn't use some of their coaching decision's as strong indication of a players talent, or playing ability. And, the Raiders brass have proven themselves more than capable of turning an NFL football team into a complete clusterf**k...
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    funny how the year before you talked about him being underrated but now..one season later..hes a bust
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    I'd love him here but I don't think he's a true number 1.... we'll definently need to bring the pressure with our front 7 to keep from getting torn up next season.

    Fabian Washington
    Ellis Hobbs
    Jason Webster
    Lewis Sanders
    Willie Andrews

    aren't the worst 5 you can go out with.
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    funny how people say chad jackson was underrated, after a season injured he's a bust, or randy moss, who was finished, after one season he's the best WR in the nfl, fans can be so fickle ay
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    Fabian left Nebraska in 2003. Why the Raiders spent a 1st on him I've never understood (all signs pointing to it being his 40 time). He was a better than average corner at Nebraska but was never an elite or shut down guy at the college level and made plenty of mistakes. Looks like his tenure with the Raiders has been marginal as well. I don't think there is anything especially intriguing about the guy. I suppose I would take him as a #2 over Ellis H. though. I think he'd be worth a 4th, possibly our 31st 3rd (though I wouldn't be thrilled).
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    The question here would seem to be two-fold:

    1.) Can Washington be a #3 corner in New England's system?

    2.) What round draft pick is fair value for Belioli to offer for a #3 corner to fit in New England's system?
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