Possible OL help - rookie tryouts

[DarMan]

The concern I have is did it really take that pathetic showing against the Texans to realize the offensive line was inadequate. And are two street undrafted free agaents the answer?

 

[State]

If you remember after Parcells first year with the Pats he said the center position “held us hostage.” His words.

We are facing the same thing with the tackle position. Presumably Trent Brown will shamble his way to LT where, if he wants it, can be a top ten player. RT he’d be even better.

But the Reiff acquisition isn’t panning out thus far.

Bill, are you starting to panic?

Parcells drafted Dave Wohlabaugh from Syracuse in the fourth round to fix the center position. Dave’s son, who’s even bigger, just transferred to Syracuse. I think he’s a tackle.

 

[n6249c]

The concern I have is did it really take that pathetic showing against the Texans to realize the offensive line was inadequate. And are two street undrafted free agaents the answer?

I’d say the tryouts must have been scheduled before the game. Not enough time to plan them and get the rookies into town if they weren’t already set up before the game. So, no, it did not take that showing to motivate attempts to improve.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I’d say the tryouts must have been scheduled before the game. Not enough time to plan them and get the rookies into town if they weren’t already set up before the game. So, no, it did not take that showing to motivate attempts to improve.

This is obviously true. Amazing others didn't realize it.

 

[n6249c]

Because he won't be?

That’s just like your opinion man. Not universally held….

Bengals Right Tackle Battle is Over: Jonah Williams Not Playing Against Packers

 

[mgcolby]

That’s just like your opinion man. Not universally held….

Bengals Right Tackle Battle is Over: Jonah Williams Not Playing Against Packers

Interesting.

 

[captain stone]

I would overpay to bring in:

Omos ... left tackle
Odyssey Jones ... left guard
Commander Azeez ... right guard
Shanky ... right tackle
Kane .... center

Is that the Undertaker's brother?

 

[captain stone]

I saw Reid listed at 6’4” and 295. Lacking both leverage and weight seems more of a challenge.

Yeah I've noticed a couple of different weight listings now: 297 at NFL.com, 307 at CBSSports.com, and 311 here:

Trevor Reid - OT - Louisville - 2023 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

Trevor Reid - OT - Louisville - 2023 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

draftscout.com

I still feel like we should sign him (or the other dude), get him in the building for a couple of weeks, then determine if he's the development LT to sign to the PS after Cut-Down Day.

 

[Wozzy]

Yeah I've noticed a couple of different weight listings now: 297 at NFL.com, 307 at CBSSports.com, and 311 here:

Trevor Reid - OT - Louisville - 2023 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

Trevor Reid - OT - Louisville - 2023 Draft Scout/NCAA College Football

draftscout.com

I still feel like we should sign him (or the other dude), get him in the building for a couple of weeks, then determine if he's the development LT to sign to the PS after Cut-Down Day.

He weighed 311 at his pro day, they weigh them so it's accurate. He also has an 85" wingspan so length is not an issue. He was great at every measurable except bench press so he could afford to get stronger. I hope they bring him in.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Is that the Undertaker's brother?

Yes

 

[captain stone]

That’s just like your opinion man. Not universally held….

Bengals Right Tackle Battle is Over: Jonah Williams Not Playing Against Packers

Interesting.

They still have like 7 other players with OT experience in their building, either in college or the pros... And that's not including La'El Collins who's more likely than not to start the season on Reserve/PUP... Still think they could make an excellent trade partner.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Sow just doesn't have it IMO. If he can't play guard, I think they need to even move on.

He's barely played tackle - last time was in 2018. Lazar said his problem stemmed from his footwork in pass setting. So that is fixable. He has the size and physical attributes to play tackle - just still very raw.

 

[Family]

He's barely played tackle - last time was in 2018. Lazar said his problem stemmed from his footwork in pass setting. So that is fixable. He has the size and physical attributes to play tackle - just still very raw.

Speed. He's slow as molasses.

If he could play guard, why would they forfeit this season when beyond the injured starters it's almost as bad as it can get.

Let him develop to tackle year 3, but we really need a guard now!

That's why I think it's a little of "let's just see if we can teach him anything to be helpful sometime" and he can not do really anything now.

 

[Zuma]

He's barely played tackle - last time was in 2018. Lazar said his problem stemmed from his footwork in pass setting. So that is fixable. He has the size and physical attributes to play tackle - just still very raw.

An unpopular opinion…move Strange to LT and Sow to LG. Strange is the same size as Matt Light but is more mobil…Sow is more of a fatty…or Mafi at LG.

 

[Hades]

Report: Patriots signing offensive lineman Micah Vanterpool​

 

[Family]

An unpopular opinion…move Strange to LT and Sow to LG. Strange is the same size as Matt Light but is more mobil…Sow is more of a fatty…or Mafi at LG.

If Sow can play effectively as a third guard, which many mid-round choices have done as rookies (or even started) with this organization, then why wouldn't they? They literally have no one beyond the injured starters.

This red shirt year to learn tackle thing is crap IMO. He can't play anywhere.

 

[kevan2201]

I'd sign Trevor Reid over Vanterpool. Dude has elite measurables

 

[Scotty]

Micah Vanterpool - Football - University of Hawai'i at Manoa Athletics

Micah Vanterpool (71) Offensive Line - 2022: All-Mountain West second team Started all 13 games at right guard. One of the four offensive players to

hawaiiathletics.com

 

[Zuma]

Patriots reportedly agree to deal with offensive lineman Micah Vanterpool

Vanterpool is the second USFL player signed in as many days.

www.patspulpit.com

In his fifth and final collegiate season last fall, Vanterpool was named to the All-Mountain West second-team after starting 13 games at right guard. He did not allow a sack or register a penalty all season.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

If he could play guard, why would they forfeit this season when beyond the injured starters it's almost as bad as it can get.

The assumption is that Strange will be back soon and Onwenu at some point too. So they are not "forfeiting this season" by not having Sow play guard. Among the rookies Mafi is a guard and Jake Andrews can likely play guard too, and we still have the backups from last season. Tackle is the longer-term depth problem.