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@crawhammer
He’s a no brainer to be in. He will as some point
Hopefully he will.. the guys vastly undervalued... next patriots player than needs to be up for consideration is Hot rod Harrison In my opinion..
He should be in the pro football hall of fame as well. Another no brainer
Guy was a great player at chargers for a long time and was a great player for us..
Best WR in franchise history... Moss only played in 52 games for the Patriots... not enough despite the epic 2007 season.
He's not.
I still haven't seen anything that Parcells did prior to the Super Bowl that impacted the outcome of the game. Had the preparation not been adequate for that game, they would have lost by 50 points. Within the first 5 minutes of the game Bledsoe was giving points to Green Bay. His second turnovers led to another GB score. The Patriots couldn't sustain a 4th quarter drive because of more Bledsoe turnovers. Favre played a clean game. Bledsoe had 4 INTs. Game over.
11 carries total for C-Mart was suicide. He needed at least 25. Or thirty.
leading up to the game, there was a lot of talk about parcells leaving... and even moreso, it was a widely known "secret" that the jete had started their play for parcells early in 1996 because he had let his disagreement with kraft spill over in the press... thats when you get the famous shop for the groceries quote... lesser known quote was when parcells was directly asked about the jets his answer was, paraphrasing here, " i'm sgt. schultz, I know nothing" ... he wasnt even trying to deny it / hide it anymore... every rumor that had landed prior to the super bowl was confirmed the night of the super bowl, when he declined to leave new orleans with his team...
I think the point of the nomination is to recognize that Tuna choosing to come here and be, well, Tuna, was franchise affecting historically in a positive way, and everybody knew it. When you take the good with the bad, and put it in perspective, Coach being here ranks up there with Kraft buying the team & hiring Bill Belichick, and Belichick drafting Tom Brady.
Parcells is no dummy, he knew Bledsoe's limitations. Besides, you can criticize the game plan, and the execution, but this has nothing to do with Parcells allegedly sabotaging the game ahead of time because he had "one foot out the door." I've heard this stated as though it's a fact when in reality there's no concrete examples or evidence of it.
Don't spoil the good vibes now... obviously I'm not being "deliberately obtuse."
Vibes are all good craw... didn't mean to say you were being DO, apologies if you read it otherwise, wasn't my intention to call you out there...
I forget which reporter found it but they had Parcells phone records for the 2 weeks before the superbowl from his hotel room. He spent a couple of hours a day on the phone with jets HQ. I don't care that he left or that he talked to the jets. I am royally rip **** pissed that he did it before the super bowl where IMO the entire team should be prepping 16 hours a day and sleeping/recovering the other 8.
You're right, but Bill's Bill. Fairbanks did the same thing, but I don't forget or overlook the tremendous things they did despite not getting along with ownership.
I don't believe the bit about the phone records but it doesn't matter a whole lot anyway because the Patriots lost SB 31 because their QB had 3 TDs and 0 INTs whereas our QB had 2 TDs and 4 INTs. They were the superior team heading into the game and they won the turnover battle 4-0, which has nothing to do any communications Parcells may have had with the Jets.
I think a legitimate complaint is that, focusing 100% on the game might have led Parcells to realize that Bledsoe was not going to win it for you, and giving C-Mart at least 25-30 carries would.
This is a perfect example of what Ian is talking about. You said there are no concrete examples of him having one foot out the door. I give you evidence that during super bowl week, friggin Super Bowl week, when every last person on the team should be eating, drinking, breathing, sleeping the game plan, he was on the phone for hours. Instead of hmm I hadn’t heard of that, its allow me to dismiss it as never happened and reiterate the talking points I already said 100 times. This is why responding to you is pointless, you already made up your mind and no other evidence that counters your notion of what happened is allowed.
Listen bro, if you have "evidence" that "for the 2 weeks before the superbowl from his hotel room, Parcells spent a couple of hours a day on the phone with Jets HQ" then I will entirely retract my support of Parcells for the Patriots HOF. So far your source is someone you can't remember who allegedly had phone records. Who was it and where are these phone records?
