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What if the NFL owners are good actors? What if they got Judge "Dumb Ass" Nelson to do their bidding for them?
Obviously a win on the lock out situation would have been the goal but, now Nelson has set the stage for the Owners to "Start up League year business" without any formal direction. Bingo....I see Bingo!
O.K. Mo the little Pimp won a round or two here but he basically screwed the NFL players in his infinite wisdom and political power grab.
FACT:
There is no more CBA
There is no Union to interceded for players demands
In essence each player must sign a W9:
The person who gives Form W-9 to the partnership for purposes of
establishing its U.S. status and avoiding withholding on its allocable
share of net income from the partnership conducting a trade or business
in the United States is in the following cases:
• The U.S. owner of a disregarded entity and not the entity,
• The U.S. grantor or other owner of a grantor trust and not the trust,
and
• The U.S. trust (other than a grantor trust) and not the beneficiaries of
the trust.
The Players automatically become their own business and entity.
They are outside labor and not entitled to insurance nor can it be negotiated by the "Union" as it was decertified.
Judge "SA" has created a fire storm!!!
She told the Owners to make up rules to begin business for the year.
Some most sought after items the Players want gone are "Franchising" of a player, Shorter contract terms, The elimination of the Draft as we know it so the players can pick where they want to play and certainly not longer seasons. You might not want to get those by sacrificing what is below.
The Owners go nuclear. Well Judge SA has not ordered the Owners to make the rules and it could go this way and these would not tamper with the Anti Trust issues. It would also put more money back in each owners investment that the NFLPA tried to stop:
1_ Immediately the season goes to 18 Games this year
2_The new League installed CAP is back down to $80m from $120m
a) This prevents richest Teams from buying up the best players
b) This absolutely hurts the "What used to be, Union" because they lose 25% of the NFL Player force who will be jobless, go the the UFL or CFL. It causes massive internal destruction of the NFLPA as with no new CBA or Union, each player in on his own.
c) The elite Players will be required to play Special Teams or multiple positions.
3_ Team rosters will not exceed 40 players.
a) Again...see above. The smaller market Teams or lesser financially resourced ones can put their best 40 Players out as equals.
b) All the players that come out of college and that can no longer be fairly Drafted, can't pick just one Team like say the Cowboys or Packers because each Team only holds a 40 man roster. Or they can play for less to fit the CAP of said Team they want to forfeit Salary.
4_Off Season Practice will be limited to 30 Days prior to the Season so added personnel can be limited to save Team resources.
5_One Drug Test per week required and any player in violation an automatic one year suspension with no pay as per new "League rules" HA HA!
a) This can also include even a parking ticket
6_As new private contractors, each player will be required to sign an NDA (non compete agreement)
a)Any player getting a endorsement or personal service contract, if the name NFL is mentioned, their Team is mentioned or anything professional football, would be required to give a stipulated amount of financial return from said endorsement back to the Team and the NFL or be sued by said Team or the NFL.
7_ As private contractors, they would have to buy their own insurance for themselves and their families.
a) As private contractors they must sign releases with their contracted Teams to hold harmless against said Team any injury or health related issue.
8_ As Private contractors, they could be responsible for their own transportation,lodging and food "We play Cleveland this Sunday at 1:00....Be there or do not get paid!" Or they can buy tickets on the Team plane.
9_All profit sharing with the players as a group is obviously null and void as they are each their own entity.
10_Year end Free Agents can only be added after each Teams Bye Week that following Season
At the end of the day Judge SA, was she duped by the owners? Did they say, "If we get stiffed on the lockout, let's see if we can get a numbskull judge to force us to open our doors a ...get this....create NEW rules?" Could that have been the clever fallback?
The reduction of 25% of the payroll creates about $1.2b in added revenue back to the NFL. Thanks little Pimp man! Thanks Numbskull Judge! Then the League gains a few sheckles by eliminating the perks and gaining two more schedule season games.
Now to get through to some of the media and others who seem uninformed or live in an information vaccum. BB would be advised NOT to trade up to 2012. That would be crazy!
Bill ....Cash out your chips!!!!
Belichick called this year's crop of defensive linemen one of the best in any draft ever. "There is a lot of depth at the top of the draft," said Belichick. "Some good defensive front seven players [and] on the defensive front, probably more [depth] than in any draft I can remember."
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Obviously a win on the lock out situation would have been the goal but, now Nelson has set the stage for the Owners to "Start up League year business" without any formal direction. Bingo....I see Bingo!
O.K. Mo the little Pimp won a round or two here but he basically screwed the NFL players in his infinite wisdom and political power grab.
FACT:
There is no more CBA
There is no Union to interceded for players demands
In essence each player must sign a W9:
The person who gives Form W-9 to the partnership for purposes of
establishing its U.S. status and avoiding withholding on its allocable
share of net income from the partnership conducting a trade or business
in the United States is in the following cases:
• The U.S. owner of a disregarded entity and not the entity,
• The U.S. grantor or other owner of a grantor trust and not the trust,
and
• The U.S. trust (other than a grantor trust) and not the beneficiaries of
the trust.
The Players automatically become their own business and entity.
They are outside labor and not entitled to insurance nor can it be negotiated by the "Union" as it was decertified.
Judge "SA" has created a fire storm!!!
She told the Owners to make up rules to begin business for the year.
Some most sought after items the Players want gone are "Franchising" of a player, Shorter contract terms, The elimination of the Draft as we know it so the players can pick where they want to play and certainly not longer seasons. You might not want to get those by sacrificing what is below.
The Owners go nuclear. Well Judge SA has not ordered the Owners to make the rules and it could go this way and these would not tamper with the Anti Trust issues. It would also put more money back in each owners investment that the NFLPA tried to stop:
1_ Immediately the season goes to 18 Games this year
2_The new League installed CAP is back down to $80m from $120m
a) This prevents richest Teams from buying up the best players
b) This absolutely hurts the "What used to be, Union" because they lose 25% of the NFL Player force who will be jobless, go the the UFL or CFL. It causes massive internal destruction of the NFLPA as with no new CBA or Union, each player in on his own.
c) The elite Players will be required to play Special Teams or multiple positions.
3_ Team rosters will not exceed 40 players.
a) Again...see above. The smaller market Teams or lesser financially resourced ones can put their best 40 Players out as equals.
b) All the players that come out of college and that can no longer be fairly Drafted, can't pick just one Team like say the Cowboys or Packers because each Team only holds a 40 man roster. Or they can play for less to fit the CAP of said Team they want to forfeit Salary.
4_Off Season Practice will be limited to 30 Days prior to the Season so added personnel can be limited to save Team resources.
5_One Drug Test per week required and any player in violation an automatic one year suspension with no pay as per new "League rules" HA HA!
a) This can also include even a parking ticket
6_As new private contractors, each player will be required to sign an NDA (non compete agreement)
a)Any player getting a endorsement or personal service contract, if the name NFL is mentioned, their Team is mentioned or anything professional football, would be required to give a stipulated amount of financial return from said endorsement back to the Team and the NFL or be sued by said Team or the NFL.
7_ As private contractors, they would have to buy their own insurance for themselves and their families.
a) As private contractors they must sign releases with their contracted Teams to hold harmless against said Team any injury or health related issue.
8_ As Private contractors, they could be responsible for their own transportation,lodging and food "We play Cleveland this Sunday at 1:00....Be there or do not get paid!" Or they can buy tickets on the Team plane.
9_All profit sharing with the players as a group is obviously null and void as they are each their own entity.
10_Year end Free Agents can only be added after each Teams Bye Week that following Season
At the end of the day Judge SA, was she duped by the owners? Did they say, "If we get stiffed on the lockout, let's see if we can get a numbskull judge to force us to open our doors a ...get this....create NEW rules?" Could that have been the clever fallback?
The reduction of 25% of the payroll creates about $1.2b in added revenue back to the NFL. Thanks little Pimp man! Thanks Numbskull Judge! Then the League gains a few sheckles by eliminating the perks and gaining two more schedule season games.
Now to get through to some of the media and others who seem uninformed or live in an information vaccum. BB would be advised NOT to trade up to 2012. That would be crazy!
Bill ....Cash out your chips!!!!
Belichick called this year's crop of defensive linemen one of the best in any draft ever. "There is a lot of depth at the top of the draft," said Belichick. "Some good defensive front seven players [and] on the defensive front, probably more [depth] than in any draft I can remember."
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