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  1. MrBigglesWorth

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    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
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    great
    and i kinda wanted this guy

    we all know this means there is no way we are picking him
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    Guess what? He was going to be my surprise bom* (oops) I was going to reveal this week.

    Was focusing on the LB options today, finally deciding we won't draft one at #24. Bringing me to the remaining LBs at #28, and which ones fit best. Couldn't find one left in round one, bringing me to Harris in round two. Well, he won't make it to our round three pick, and barring any trade, we don't have a second-rounder. What to do I wondered...AHA! Make him an option at #28, knowing no one will take him this early -- except BB -- who doesn't care about consensus rankings. Want a head-banger -- here's your guy (sorry TJ).

    Understand, unlike the unnamed source, I'm not predicting we'll pick him at #28. Just saying he's now a surprise option there. :cool:

    #24 -- Griffin/Staley/?
    #28 -- Harris/?
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    A very safe, solid pick. I hope the source is correct.
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    Haven't we been talking about this guy as an option at 28 for at least the past two weeks?
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    Something strikes me as not-so-kosher here. Think about it for a second: if teams "know" they want David Harris, and the Pats plan to take him at 28 (and why 28 and not 24, if they're that certain about it?), wouldn't that give teams at 25, 26, and 27 added leverage for teams looking to trade up to get him?
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    It's all misinformation. Think about this.... when is the last time someyhing credible was leaked by the Pats. It just doesn't happen. It's speculation or misinformation.

    The CIA leaks more than the Pats.
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    #24 Jersey

    As I said on the main board thread, it doesn't say it's from the Patriots - it reads as the strong opinion of another team. Nothing more, nothing less.
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    I had NE taking him in all three of my ideal mock's (posted 4/10/07):

    ** NE trades Asante Samuel to the Titans for 19th overall **
    ** NE trades 24th overall to Tampa Bay for 35th and 64th overall **

    1.19: CB Darrelle Revis
    1.28: S Brandon Meriweather
    2.3: ILB David Harris
    2.32: OLB/ILB Stewart Bradley
    3.28: RB Lorenzo "L-Boogie" Booker or B-Jax
    4.28: S Wendling or S Piscitelli
    5(comp): DeAndre Jackson or Usama Young (climbing)
    6.6: OT Mike Otto
    6.28: WR Chris Davis
    6(comp): NT Walter Thomas
    6(comp): QB Jared Zabransky
    7(comp): BPA

    UDFA: OLB/ILB Madison Miller

    OR

    ** NE trades Asante Samuel to the Titans for 19th overall **
    ** NE trades 24th overall to Tampa Bay for 35th and 64th overall **

    1.19: CB Darrelle Revis
    1.28: S Michael Griffin
    2.3: ILB David Harris
    2.32: Josh "The Truth" Wilson
    3.28: RB Lorenzo "L-Boogie" Booker or B-Jax
    4.28: S Wendling or S Piscitelli
    5(comp): Anthony Waters
    6.6: OT Mike Otto
    6.28: WR Chris Davis
    6(comp): NT Walter Thomas
    6(comp): QB Jared Zabransky
    7(comp): BPA

    UDFA: OLB/ILB Madison Miller
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    ** NE trades Asante Samuel to the Titans for 19th overall **
    ** NE trades 24th overall to Tampa Bay for 35th and 64th overall **

    1.19: Darrelle Revis
    1.28: David Harris
    2.3: LaMarr Woodley
    2.32: Eric Weddle
    3.28: Lorenzo Booker or Brandon Jackson
    4.28: Piscitelli or Wendling
    5(comp): DeAndre Jackson or Usama Young (climbing)
    6.6: Chris Davis
    6.28: Mike Otto
    6(comp): Walter Thomas
    6(comp): Jared Zabransky
    7(comp): BPA

    UDFA: Madison Miller

    Patchick also had him going to NE at 28th overall. I can't remember who else had him going to NE. Here the link
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    I'm not one of the "we", so no -- I haven't been talking about him in that slot. He's not now, and never has been considered a round one prospect -- except very recently for the Pats -- because we reach for players who fit. The players who were once #28 options have risen to #24 possibilities. The players who were considered early second-rounders have risen into #28 considerations. Risers and fallers -- that's how it plays out every draft.

    But if someone wants to be first, second, third, whatever -- in predicting correctly who the Pats selections will be -- go for it! I'll post my thoughts elsewhere.
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    I would love this pick at #28. And if we got Griffin at #24 it would make my day. I love the fact that Griffin is also a very talented ST player. Griffin & Harris would be sweet.
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    I second that
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    All this Harrising chatter...leads one to surmise the Pats are taking a Punter in round one.
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    Now that would be a bit of 'gamble.'
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    Thanks to crazy Al, we have a track record on first round Punters.
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    Harris is great value at a position of great need.:rocker:
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    The draft is close yet so far!!!!!!

    AHHH!!!!
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    I'd still prefer to see us trade back into the 2nd(TB@35/ATL@39) select Harris/Weddle there & get an additional 3rd round pick out of it.
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    Harris maybe a bit one dimensional but Posluszny just gets devoured by bigger blockers while Harris does a fine job of shedding them and moving into the hole. Posluszny is cut out for an outside spot in a 4-3 but is too small for the outside with the Pats 3-4 and can't handle the physicality of playing inside in a 3-4 either. Posluszny seems like a good guy with good effort but he'd be more successful elsewhere.
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    I think Weddle is a long shot to become a starting caliber NFL safety. He's does not appear explosive enough to play strong safety, or have the length to play free safety. His quickness is excellent and his best position may actually be cb, the position he has wanted to play all along. However, the fact it may be his best position does not guarantee he will succeed at it in the NFL...the track record of non-BCS cbs like Weddle is poor in recent years. The track record of non-BCS safeties is much better, such as Nick Collins and Danieal Manning, but both had better measurables than Weddle for that position. I would not be comfortable with Weddle on Day 1.
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    Asante Samuel went to Central Florida. Granted he was a 4th round selection, but he didn't have any hype that I'm aware of going into that draft.
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    Very true. But I think Asante and Mathis in '03 are very rare. I'd rather play it safe than gamble. Other people like to swing for the fences. I like to play the percentages. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong necessarily. In the long run I think the safe approach may lead to fewer busts, but fewer stars.
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    I think the only first round pick that was obvious to every Pats fan was Wilfork, but even then it was only obvious after he unexpectedly dropped on draft day. I'd say that Harris at 28 is probably the safest bet since then (using the term "safe" very loosely), which is no surprise to anyone but PFT as this board has been talking about it for a very long time now.
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    A source recently said he doesn't understand why some are ranking LaMarr Woodley so low. He said Woodley is the second best DE in this draft behind only Gaines Adams. I recently noticed a report on Patriots.com that stated the same thing. I've been on Woodley for awhile, and I completely agree. This is why I don't think Woodley would be a reach at 28, if they were to pick him.
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    I agree. A great mock. But I think Revis will go higher. I think you might have to go up to #10, with Houston, to get Revis. I'm not sure Asante can bring that kind of value, but he should. It work out well for everyone. Houston would have an established cb to pair with Robinson who could impact immediately in a "win now" situation for the Texans, Asante would get his money and the Pats would get Revis, who could be brought along gradually as a 3rd CB in year 1. The wild card in the Pats drfat is definitely a potential trade of Samuel, and how much value he has. Any guesses?
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    My issues with Woodley at OLB are these: He opted out of Senior Bowl practices due to injury, but prior to leaving he had not shown well. He opted out of the combine due to injury. He chose not to run a 3 cone drill. He may have done this legitimately, or to conceal his marginal quickness before the draft and keep 3-4 teams intrigued by an unknown rather than turned off by a bad score. His pro day speed was reported by Gil Brandt 4.8 and 4.95. http://nfl.com/draft/analysis/expert/brandt/dl, which jives with my impression while watching him play. He was neutralized vs Ohio St, where he did not show great closing speed, and especially USC vs. an NFL caliber LT. He lost 20 lbs last offseason to gain quickness and his natural build is a thick 275 +, which he will trend back to in the next few years, as is normal for players between 21 and 25. His game is similar to Daryl Tapp, who came on strong for the Seahawks late in the year as a 4-3 DE. Woodley's short area explosion and body type make him more suitable to 4-3 DE than OLB IMO. I think he can become a starter at 4-3 DE. It's a gamble at 3-4 OLB, especially in rd 1.
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    Those times aren't correct, and he's reported some other times incorrectly in the past. Woodley ran two 40's at his Pro Day the times were: 4.74 and 4.84. He still had a little tightness in his hammy, but he's probably fine now. Also, Woodley has run a 4.62 - 40 in the past. When I watched him play his pass rush and his play around the LOS reminded me of Adalius Thomas. Obviously he doesn't have the same type of coverage ability, but he's a very good pass rusher, and believe it or not NE could use another young pass rusher. He's also good against the run which would be an upgrade over past pass rushing OLB's.
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