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You can always leave if you don't like us. Nobody wants you to be unhappy. :rolleyes:

I love America, but I'd like to change things about it, so why should I leave? I never said other countries were better, but there are some things they do better than us and some things we do better than them which makes the simplistic "everyone hates us because we are the best and they are jealous" argument sound moronic.

Is there nothing you would like to change about America? If not, then you are either blind or willfully ignorant and if so, maybe you should go live somewhere else.
 
well because the Oil companies are, and George W. Bush and co. care far more about oil corporations than they do about you. Just ask Alan Greenspan, even he has said the same and he's a Republican.

It also has to do with the neoconservative agenda to stem the rise of China by controlling the oil that will assist them in their boom.

Just ask these monsters:

www.newamericancentury.org
Koppen did a nice job last week.
 
You guys are all nuts anyway. The illuminati runs the whole show. Hail Discordia!
 
Is there nothing you would like to change about America? If not, then you are either blind or willfully ignorant and if so, maybe you should go live somewhere else.

Your hate is overwhelming you and your brain. You must be a Democrat since
you immediately resort to character assassination whenever you feel your
idiotic and idealistic rants are being questioned. :rolleyes:
 
Your hate is overwhelming you and your brain. You must be a Democrat since
you immediately resort to character assassination whenever you feel your
idiotic and idealistic rants are being questioned. :rolleyes:

And don't forget, how can Wes Welker be Troy Brown reincarnated when Troy is still alive???
 
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Your hate is overwhelming you and your brain. You must be a Democrat since
you immediately resort to character assassination whenever you feel your
idiotic and idealistic rants are being questioned. :rolleyes:

what? you told me to go live somewhere else and reduced my argument to "you hate America."

And no I'm definately not a Democrat, so it won't be that easy for you to dismiss my arguments by labelling and pigeonholing me.

By the way, what exactly is idealistic about what I've said?
 
I hope Polian re-incarnates as a kockroach...so I can squash him with my size 14 hick kickers
 
You guys are all nuts anyway. The illuminati runs the whole show. Hail Discordia!

That's what Lizard People always say. I know the truth.
 
for the record, I asked the mods to move this thread before I said anything, but if people are going to start sounding off about politics and start singing "America! F#ck Yeah!" then I'm certainly going to talk back and show that not all Pats fans think that way.
 
well because the Oil companies are, and George W. Bush and co. care far more about oil corporations than they do about you. Just ask Alan Greenspan, even he has said the same and he's a Republican.

It also has to do with the neoconservative agenda to stem the rise of China by controlling the oil that will assist them in their boom.

Just ask these monsters:

www.newamericancentury.org

Wildo, easy big fella.

The post was simply meant to make fun of a stereo type.

Sorry if it pushes a button.

Obviously you can say what you want. But, it is just a joke. People gang up on entities, countries, teams. And people are certainly ganging up on the Pats.

Sports teams are natural Flagships of countries. The olympics used to really underscore this. You may not like the idea of Nationalism. It's cool if you feel that way. But it is a natural occurance to use a team as a symbol. I have simply put the pats with America.
 
You can always leave if you don't like us. Nobody wants you to be unhappy. :rolleyes:
Eh.... people like that who are always b*tching and moaning about how horrible America is are the last people that would ever leave because they know deep down how truly great it is to be here.
 
Ugly means ugly, not "winner". Sometimes there is overlap but there are two issues there. The ugly part of winner can be legitimately addressed as a separate issue.

A winner wins a war. An ugly winner tortures its POWs. A really ugly winner even videotapes the torture, and sells it on the porn market and profits from it.

What we're dealing with here is the fact that our coach is not perceived to be open, honest or lovable. What can you say to that? His public persona is one of being walled off, secretive, tight lipped, and testy. So that's the way he is. I don't particularly care but I don't expect the world to see it my way either. Bill is what he is - a piss poor public communicator, and a great football mind.

That's not going to get him sainted except grudgingly from the football gods. The rest of the gods will try to take him down.
 
if people are going to start sounding off about politics and start singing "America! F#ck Yeah!".

Damn, now that awesome song is stuck in my head!
 
The way that the pats are vilified, it reminds me of the way the world looks at Americans in general. So many people around the world sneer at us, while other countries and societies do things that are far worse.

When you are the top dog, you will have the other dogs nipping at your flanks throughout the day. I know this. But the attacks this year have been bizarre.

By the way,

Dungy should wear a baret and speak French in my opinion.

My apologies for anyone from other great lands who are not so judgemental. The whole NFL just seems to have such political undercurrents that it is hard for me to not see this parallel.

Pats unstoppable passing attack= U.S. air superiority
 
Bill communicates just fine on the Big Show every week...funny, articulate,open...I never miss it.

the perception of a bunch of jacka$$es from Indy is worth less than the dump I took this morning
 
Bill is what he is - a piss poor public communicator, and a great football mind.

That's not going to get him sainted except grudgingly from the football gods. The rest of the gods will try to take him down.

It depends on the audience.

In the business world, he is a highly sought after public speaker. Certainly, if he ever spoke to military people, they would absolutely love him. He is a great teacher as evidenced by his team's love for him. (students don't love boring teachers. They love and learn from teachers who can motivate.)

There are many venues where he would be vilified. One certainly is when he speaks to people with less than honest intentions. ie. the press
 
Pats unstoppable passing attack= U.S. air superiority

And this is how the thread was supposed to work.

I also hoped that Shula would be compared to some dispicable character.
 
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