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PATs Red zone: 1 for 5 - anyone concerned?

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  1. JR4

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    Just to get back to reality for a moment.
    It was fun to beat up the JETs ... but

    This was the Jets and 1 TD in 5 red zone trips may be good enough to beat
    the JETs, KC and Miami type teams but not good teams.
    PATs need to get this offense scoring in the red zone.
    I am hopeful but 20% efficiency in the Red Zone will get this
    team killed against the better teams.

    So all is not roses here. OK, back to celebrating a wonderful day
    seeing the JETs and their Fans humiliated. :D
     
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    Not too worried at the moment. The next two games are against Miami and SF with a bye in between. They should be able to beat both of those teams and by then Matty should be more comfortable.

    On the first drive he seemed to lock on to his receiver (Welker? Thomas?) ad just threw the ball a step too early or without enough touch on it. Also, the ball tipped by the Jet defender on the last drive was a great play that, with time and touch, Cassel will hopefully be able to drop into the hands of the open defender.
     
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    Let's give Matty some time to acclimate to the offense at game speed. We're 2-0 when nobody would bat an eyelash if we were 0-2 given the circumstances. I agree, they will need to be better, but the fact that we're winning as Matty is learning things at full speed makes me happy. As he gets more confident and comfortable, I would assume so will Josh and BB. What makes me happiest is, thus far, no turnovers from him in almost 2 full games, that's WAY better than being 4-5 red zone but with 3-4 turnovers. At least in my opinion.
     
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    In one game, I ain't concerned. If it turns into a trend, then I will get worried.
     
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    As a whole we need to do a better job in the redzone absolutely. From playcalling to execution, it wasn't a great day for redzone offense. I am confident that will get better though.
     
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    I think we'll get that fixed. But remember we need some games under Cassell's belt. I hope they are all wins, but after this, confidence builds up for him. Miami should be a next challenge, but our Defense should take care of them and have Cassell sorta "erector set" his confidence.
     
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    I believe they had 2 or was it 3 4th and 1's but passed them up for the conservative FG's, in future weeks i would like to see quarterback sneaks on 4th and 1. Not worried, ease Cassel into these things week to week.
     
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    Man, I'm having 2001 deja vu all day long today.
     
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    YES
    Throw it to Moss more. We won't beat the better teams with FG's.
     
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    Yards come at a premium in the red zone. The windows are smaller, defenses can send more pressure, and receivers have less room to maneuver. These things will exacerbate the problems faced by a young QB making his first start, so it's not surprising that the Pats O stalled in the red zone more than usual.

    Cassel will be able to react faster and make better decisions as he gets more games under his belt, and with offensive talent around him, our red zone efficiency should come around when he does.
     
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    I didn't like the red zone playcalling at all on the first drive of the game and the drive where we were up 13-3 and the staff looked fine with just settling to go up 16-3 (Why?! It's still a 2 possession game). I think (hope) it improves as the season goes on and Cassel has enough confidence from the staff to go and GET us points or GET the game-sealing play.
     
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    not too concerned as of now. If the problem persists, then there's an issue. they do obviously need improvements, but it's likely at the top of their list to work on. with a new qb in transition, they are probably calling plays cautiously just to protect the ball. maybe if they were behind, they would take some chances with playcalls.
    San Diego will certainly be a better measuring stick for the team than these first three
     
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    There are always concerns even in victory and this is definitely a concern that needs to be addressed coming out of this game. You can be sure BB and Mcdaniels were not happy with the production down there and it will be a big topic in meetings and film study in the next couple days.
     
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    That will come. Right now, we beat the RATS :D

    With no Tom Brady :D

    In their house :D
     
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    Red Zone play will come as the season rolls along. I really don't think Cassell is going to have all the timing down pat until at least mid-season. In the meantime I expect Belichick to tweak the running game which will in turn help out with the red zone. Even today ... I would have liked even more running than what we did ... i think we can have a top 5 running team if we go that route.
     
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    It is good enough to beat most of the teams on the schedule, but not Colts, Steelers and Chargers. So if we go 13-3 and can turn improve the red zone offense by JANUARY, we should be okay.
     
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    the jets were determined to not let moss score as they doubled him in the end zone.

    I wonder if Lamont might be an option in goal line to punch it in.
     
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    The ONLY reality is the glass is half full! This is a sport that is played one game at a time and the only game that matters is the next one.

    The Patriots did what they had to do to win the game. With Brady out, Belichick and the Patriots have been forced to transform themselves in one week. So I say, what a great week it was! How can any of us be negative or worried after today's game? hell, anyone who figured we still "should" be a contender with Brady out was dreaming. What we have is only a "hope" that we still can contend. We have a long way to go, but what I watched today gives me a lot of hope.

    I don't see how it couldn't.
     
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    The one play in particular that I remember is a pass to Thomas in the EZ in the 4th quarter. Cassel waited for him to be open instead of throwing it to where he was supposed to be. The pass was deflected by a Lb'er I believe. It is plays like that, timing plays, that will come.

    Overall, I was imprssed with Cassel's start. Other than the "deer in the headlights" series he had after hurting his knee, he seemed to be comfortable. The Jets did their best to take Moss out of the game, but the others stepped up.
     
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    Not positive, but I don't think Thomas was his first read on that play you mention?
     
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